Trevor Bauer discussion thread

[Spanky99]

Being someone who was banned from this forum for using the hard n-word, you should probably sit this one out.

 

It was a joke... go f*** yourself, you spineless bitch.

[Jimcanuck]

Huh?

 

Huh, what? That makes it 3 women that have alleged sexual assault by Bauer. There may be others that haven't gone public.

 

Whatever the MLB investigation found, it cannot have been good.

[Spanky99]

You are still wrong mate. Politics wasn't a factor in the decision, it was based on the fact Bauer is a serial abuser.

 

[Spanky99]

Huh, what? That makes it 3 women that have alleged sexual assault by Bauer. There may be others that haven't gone public.

 

Whatever the MLB investigation found, it cannot have been good.

 

What other women, I'm being serious, chillout man? We know nothing about this woman that has come forward, it certainly isn't good for him.

[Jimcanuck]

What other women, I'm being serious, chillout man? We know nothing about this woman that has come forward, it certainly isn't good for him.

 

I'm fully chill, mate. You seem to be the agitated one.

[Spanky99]

I'm fully chill, mate. You seem to be the agitated one.

 

Okay, can you answer my question?

[Omar]

You are still wrong mate. Politics wasn't a factor in the decision, it was based on the fact Bauer is a serial abuser.

 

Politics factored into the severity of the suspension.

[Deadpool]

Politics factored into the severity of the suspension.

 

Not necessarily. We have no idea what the MLB's investigation found.

 

Honestly, I think it's more to do with the MLB doing whatever their cash cow teams (Dodgers/Yankees) want again than any stance on principle.

[Spanky99]

Not necessarily. We have no idea what the MLB's investigation found.

 

Honestly, I think it's more to do with the MLB doing whatever their cash cow teams (Dodgers/Yankees) want again than any stance on principle.

 

Most likely, if this woman is for real, and not gas-lighting, he's cooked.

[Jimcanuck]

Okay, can you answer my question?

 

The original accuser, the woman in Ohio, and this latest accuser. There will be others that haven't come forward publicly, but may have given statements in confidence to the MLB investigators.

 

This would explain why the police investigation and DA decision took so long.

 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2022-04-29/trevor-bauer-accused-sexual-assault-third-woman

[Jonn]

I’m still stunned by this. But have to think there’s a lot more to come and MLB knew they had to send a big message. Only thing that makes sense. Its just so strange to see one or the best pitchers in the game in his prime out of the game.

[Omar]

Not necessarily. We have no idea what the MLB's investigation found.

 

Honestly, I think it's more to do with the MLB doing whatever their cash cow teams (Dodgers/Yankees) want again than any stance on principle.

 

In 2015 he would not have got the same penalty. It's a new world.

[Spanky99]

The original accuser, the woman in Ohio, and this latest accuser. There will be others that haven't come forward publicly, but may have given statements in confidence to the MLB investigators.

 

This would explain why the police investigation and DA decision took so long.

 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2022-04-29/trevor-bauer-accused-sexual-assault-third-woman

 

I click on the link and it wants me to subscribe, who's the 2nd woman?

[Omar]

plenty of people don't get charged or found innocent in trial, and lose the civil suit. in no way, shape or form, is not being charged absolving from civil liability and action taken by employer

if the police do not even open an investigation, or quickly close the investigation, that's one thing. the length of the investigation and the time for the DA to make a decision on charges leads one to believe there is plenty there

 

next step for Bauer is his appeal, and also, the civil suit he will be facing if he isn't already. and it appears he will lose.

 

No one arguing otherwise. What Term stated was not having criminal charges pressed is, if anything a benefit for TB not a impediment.

[Jimcanuck]

I click on the link and it wants me to subscribe, who's the 2nd woman?

 

A woman in Ohio, location undisclosed. The 3rd lives in Columbus.

[Jimcanuck]

No one arguing otherwise. What Term stated was not having criminal charges pressed is, if anything a benefit for TB not a impediment.

 

I don't think the police doing a lengthy investigation of Bauer and in the end the DA decided not to lay charges is a benefit to TB, at all. Post investigation, he had better watch himself going forward. But if he is a habitual sexual abuser as it appears he is, he's likely heading for more trouble.

[Terminator]

Honestly, I think it's more to do with the MLB doing whatever their cash cow teams (Dodgers/Yankees) want again than any stance on principle.

 

This is a good point. IMO it's a perfect storm of external factors that includes everything from the Dodgers wanting him to go away to the sports media wanting Bauer's head. Add it all up and there was little reason for Manfred to do anything other than throw the book at him. There's little downside from Manfred's point of view.

 

I suppose there is a chance that MLB actually did find damning evidence when an ambitious DA couldn't (Jim- yes there are different burdens of proof). But with the admin leave did they find over 400 games worth of evidence? When other guys have actual convictions and get 20 games time served?

 

And then looking at how Manfred handled the All-Star Game last year I think there's a good shot that outside influences played a factor based upon his past behavior. Maybe political influences isn't the right word but mainstream sports media hates Bauer and that's largely because of their politics/culture war stances vs. his. Manfred himself may not be acting politically but I do think he's acting based upon what others think, and THOSE people are acting politically, if that makes sense.

[Terminator]

I don't think the police doing a lengthy investigation of Bauer and in the end the DA decided not to lay charges is a benefit to TB, at all. Post investigation, he had better watch himself going forward. But if he is a habitual sexual abuser as it appears he is, he's likely heading for more trouble.

 

That's one way of looking at it. The other is that a DA's office tasked with sending people to jail left and right spent over a year trying to come up with a way to charge an unlikable douche in the #MeToo era and they still couldn't find the evidence.

 

Either way, no charges is a huge win for TB no matter how you want to spin it Jimbo.

[Omar]

I don't think the police doing a lengthy investigation of Bauer and in the end the DA decided not to lay charges is a benefit to TB, at all. Post investigation, he had better watch himself going forward. But if he is a habitual sexual abuser as it appears he is, he's likely heading for more trouble.

 

So if he was charged criminally he would be better off? Not getting charged was a gift for him.

[Jimcanuck]

Call it politics if you want, I call it a business decision.

[Terminator]

Call it politics if you want, I call it a business decision.

 

Yes! This is a good way to frame it Jim. We agree on something.

 

Left wing politics are dominating the corporate world right now though so liberal politics are informing the. business decisions.

[Jimcanuck]

So if he was charged criminally he would be better off? Not getting charged was a gift for him.

 

You are not understanding. I'm not referring to his not getting charged. I'm referring to the fact there was a lengthy police investigation followed by a lengthy deliberation by the DA. That's NOT good for Trevor Bauer. Whatever evidence they gathered will be retained. And there's no f'ing way he is going to stop the sexual abuse. It's who he is, he's headed for a fall somewhere not too far down the line.

[Omar]

Call it politics if you want, I call it a business decision.

 

Political. Business. Moral. Ethical. It is all these things. The guy is likely a pos. Just the length of suspension makes anyone pause.

[Jimcanuck]

Yes! This is a good way to frame it Jim. We agree on something.

 

Left wing politics are dominating the corporate world right now though so liberal politics are informing the. business decisions.

 

No. Money is dominating the corporate world. Decisions are made based on NOTHING BUT bottom line considerations. If making decisions such as suspending Bauer for 300 games or whatever it is is the best business decision for MLB, so be it. Politics has nothing to do with it.

[Spanky99]

This is a good point. IMO it's a perfect storm of external factors that includes everything from the Dodgers wanting him to go away to the sports media wanting Bauer's head. Add it all up and there was little reason for Manfred to do anything other than throw the book at him. There's little downside from Manfred's point of view.

 

I suppose there is a chance that MLB actually did find damning evidence when an ambitious DA couldn't (Jim- yes there are different burdens of proof). But with the admin leave did they find over 400 games worth of evidence? When other guys have actual convictions and get 20 games time served?

 

And then looking at how Manfred handled the All-Star Game last year I think there's a good shot that outside influences played a factor based upon his past behavior. Maybe political influences isn't the right word but mainstream sports media hates Bauer and that's largely because of their politics/culture war stances vs. his. Manfred himself may not be acting politically but I do think he's acting based upon what others think, and THOSE people are acting politically, if that makes sense.

 

He's cancelled, bro. It's over.

[Spanky99]

You are not understanding. I'm not referring to his not getting charged. I'm referring to the fact there was a lengthy police investigation followed by a lengthy deliberation by the DA. That's NOT good for Trevor Bauer. Whatever evidence they gathered will be retained. And there's no f'ing way he is going to stop the sexual abuse. It's who he is, he's headed for a fall somewhere not too far down the line.

 

lol... f*** Judge Dread, we have Judge JimmyC... the Bill James of Concrete.

[Terminator]

He's cancelled, bro. It's over.

 

No way the Rays are licking their chops. Going to sign him to a 1 year, 8 million dollar deal after his suspension is reduced to the rest of 2022.

[Jimcanuck]

lol... f*** Judge Dread, we have Judge JimmyC... the Bill James of Concrete.

 

And I'm right on the money, always. Heck even the 5-10 million I predicted in March 2020 is right on the money.

[Spanky99]

And I'm right on the money, always. Heck even the 5-10 million I predicted in March 2020 is right on the money.

 

lol...

 

What's the bolded about?

[Jimcanuck]

No way the Rays are licking their chops. Going to sign him to a 1 year, 8 million dollar deal after his suspension is reduced to the rest of 2022.

 

A joke I know, but even after the suspension end, no MLB team is going to have anything to do with Bauer.