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[Dick_Pole]

At least Dick Allen missed by just one vote. So it's not that egregious. Ken Boyer, the most WAR of them all, didn't even get four lol.

 

Gil Hodges I can kind of see, since he managed the 1969 Mets. Gil Hodges the baseball player....probably not good enough. Gil Hodges the baseball player plus the manager of one of the more unlikely and fabled stories in baseball...just enough to squeak in.

[Brownie19]

At least Dick Allen missed by just one vote. So it's not that egregious. Ken Boyer, the most WAR of them all, didn't even get four lol.

 

Gil Hodges I can kind of see, since he managed the 1969 Mets. Gil Hodges the baseball player....probably not good enough. Gil Hodges the baseball player plus the manager of one of the more unlikely and fabled stories in baseball...just enough to squeak in.

 

bWAR I assume? certainly not fWAR

[BigCecil]

I mean is this the Harold Baines effect? If Harold's in, then so should Gil Hodges, Tony Oliva and Minnie Minoso? WTF? I'm OK with Kaat getting in...

 

Is Minoso in because he's the first Cuban player to play in the bigs? Why would Hodges and Oliva get in over Dick Allen? Allen is the 18th best hitter of all time with over 60 career WAR, while Hodges and Oliva are around 40 career WAR. This is so bizarre. I hope these head scratching, moronic decisions aren't an annual thing.

 

I guess it's good to know some of my favourites like Fred McGriff, Carlos Delgado, David Wright, Evan Longoria and Russell Martin will all be HOFers now too.

 

Not to mention these players, who were all better than Hodges and Oliva:

 

- Tony Phillips

- JD Drew

- Mark Grace

- Mark Teixeria

- Johnny Damon

- Josh Donaldson

- Ben Zobrist

- Jose Reyes

- Jose Canseco

 

What a joke.

 

Demeaning what it means to be in the MLB HOF.

 

Jack Morris/Baines are in, but fill in the blanks better choice is not. Its becoming like the Gold Glove awards used to be when Jeter won a bunch. SMH.

[Spanky__99]

Demeaning what it means to be in the MLB HOF.

 

Jack Morris/Baines are in, but fill in the blanks better choice is not. Its becoming like the Gold Glove awards used to be when Jeter won a bunch. SMH.

 

Right, this entire process is a joke.

[Jimcanuck]

Joe Carter will probably get in at this rate. He's famous.

 

Wearing a Jays hat!

[connorp]

Demeaning what it means to be in the MLB HOF.

 

Jack Morris/Baines are in, but fill in the blanks better choice is not. Its becoming like the Gold Glove awards used to be when Jeter won a bunch. SMH.

 

I agree to your general point but don’t forget the “new norm” is about personality and all that- forget Canseco, Reyes, JD types. The other guys will prob find their way in at some point lol. Pretty s*****

[Krylian]

Morosi speculating that the Mets might have interest in Pete Walker to fill their managerial position.

[John_Havok]

Morosi speculating that the Mets might have interest in Pete Walker to fill their managerial position.

 

Everyone knows you need bigtime major league manager experience to handle being a manager in New York. It's like, harder and s***. /sarcasm

 

Pete would probably make a great manager.

[Abomination]

Everyone knows you need bigtime major league manager experience to handle being a manager in New York. It's like, harder and s***. /sarcasm

 

Pete would probably make a great manager.

 

 

We need to be proactive to keep him. Make him the manager here!

[THANOS]

We need to be proactive to keep him. Make him the manager here!

 

I'd be so down for that.

[Brownie19]

Jeeho Yoo of Yonhap News Agency in South Korea reports that OF Yasiel Puig has signed a one-year, $1 million contract with the Kiwoom Heroes of the Korean Baseball Organization.

[Spanky__99]

Jeeho Yoo of Yonhap News Agency in South Korea reports that OF Yasiel Puig has signed a one-year, $1 million contract with the Kiwoom Heroes of the Korean Baseball Organization.

 

Finally, the poor bastard was blackballed from MLB. lol

[Krylian]

Finally, the poor bastard was blackballed from MLB. lol

 

He really didn't do himself any favours though.

[Spanky__99]

He really didn't do himself any favours though.

 

I mean, how toxic could he be? Guy's a good player.

[Krylian]

I mean, how toxic could he be? Guy's a good player.

 

Pretty toxic if no one is interested. Look at how many complete losers there are still playing in pro baseball with history of s***** behavior (in all sports for that matter).

 

If an organization thinks you're good enough to help them win on the field they'll overlook almost any past transgression. Either Puig just isn't any good anymore, or he truly is a Grade A piece of s*** person.

[The Cats Ass]

It might be a combo of things that took him to Korea, I wouldn't say he was really blackballed. He first priced himself out of the market when he became a free agent, he had been offered a 1 year deal for 10M, which he should have taken. He only had 1.2 WAR the season going into free agency, and only 1.8 prior to that. Teams don't want commit longterm to a 1 WAR player with supposed attitude problems. He was about to sign a contract with the Braves in 2020, but caught covid so they didn't go through with the signing. Then the sexual assault lawsuit happened so no team probably wanted the publicity from that while it was ongoing, that just got settled in October. And this offseason probably only got minor league offers so he decided to go to Korea for more money. I could see him getting offers next offseason for a guaranteed multimillion deal if he tears up the KBO.

[The Cats Ass]

I mean, how toxic could he be? Guy's a good player.

 

Is he still good though? Would he be worth more then an MiLB deal. He's 31, and was just out OPS'd in the Mexican league by a 39 year old Adrián González. Other notable players that were better then him include Kennys Vargas, Luis Sardiñas, and Alexi Amarista

[Brownie19]

Is he still good though? Would he be worth more then an MiLB deal. He's 31, and was just out OPS'd in the Mexican league by a 39 year old Adrián González. Other notable players that were better then him include Kennys Vargas, Luis Sardiñas, and Alexi Amarista

 

Bruh - he won a gold glove in the Mexican League. He's big time still!

[wilko]

Is he still good though? Would he be worth more then an MiLB deal. He's 31, and was just out OPS'd in the Mexican league by a 39 year old Adrián González. Other notable players that were better then him include Kennys Vargas, Luis Sardiñas, and Alexi Amarista

 

Big sexy is still pitching in the Mexican league at 48!

[The Cats Ass]

Bruh - he won a gold glove in the Mexican League. He's big time still!

 

Not sure if this is sarcasm? He was below average in RF in the majors. He has a cannon for an arm, but that's it. The league leader in OPS (Jon Singleton) signed for a minors deal.

[Brownie19]

Not sure if this is sarcasm? He was below average in RF in the majors. He has a cannon for an arm, but that's it. The league leader in OPS (Jon Singleton) signed for a minors deal.

 

It was sarcasm. I'll lay it on thicker next time.

[L54]

I bet Jon Singleton was smoking some good weed down in Mexico

[Spanky__99]

Is he still good though? Would he be worth more then an MiLB deal. He's 31, and was just out OPS'd in the Mexican league by a 39 year old Adrián González. Other notable players that were better then him include Kennys Vargas, Luis Sardiñas, and Alexi Amarista

 

He might suck donkey piss now, for all I know... but he was blackballed for some reason. The 1.8 fWAR he had was in 448 PA's with a 128 wRC+, he had a down season in '19, but I doubt many at the time thought he was Poop, he still put up 18 WAR in several seasons. Meh, I don't really give a s*** to be honest, but he was indeed good enough to play in the MLB.

[Jimcanuck]

F'ing Astros would sign the devil if he could play MLB. And they had OF needs in 2020. But no to Puig.

[Spanky__99]

F'ing Astros would sign the devil if he could play MLB. And they had OF needs in 2020. But no to Puig.

 

Exactly, blackballed. I believe Krylian was right, he just may be a grade A piece of s***. I guess.

[John_Havok]

Bonds and Clemens both at 76.5% of HOF voting so far. Super early of course as there's still tons of ballots out there, but... Is this the year?

[G-Snarls]

Bonds and Clemens both at 76.5% of HOF voting so far. Super early of course as there's still tons of ballots out there, but... Is this the year?

 

I seriously hope so

[G-Snarls]

Bonds' and Clemens' Cooperstown speeches will be very interesting if they do get in

[John_Havok]

Bonds' and Clemens' Cooperstown speeches will be very interesting if they do get in

 

I hope they don't take the high road either, I hope they verbally bitchslap every single self-righteous douchebag "writer" that didn't vote for them, and I hope they roast any and all current Hall of Famer players that boycott their induction (because you know there will be).

 

Then I hope they take a syringe out and inject themselves with steroids on stage, drop the mic and flip the double bird to the world.

Edited December 13, 2021 by John_Havok

[Krylian]

I hope they don't take the high road either, I hope they verbally bitchslap every single self-righteous douchebag "writer" that didn't vote for them, and I hope they roast any and all current Hall of Famer players that boycott their induction (because you know there will be).

 

Then I hope they take a syringe out and inject themselves with steroids on stage, drop the mix and flip the double bird to the world.

 

I support this