Around Baseball 2021

[connorp]

Interesting reading about it. Arod was $100k but he clearly didn’t look done (and nobody likes him) so not much significance and that was 2010. Considering it’s Miggy and his last stop at 500- with inflation on memorabilia- going to up it to $200k easy peasy if someone holds it 10 years

 

Many times fans have given it back though. Thomas, Thome, Pujols, Sheffield etc

[BTS]

How does authentication work if you decide to keep the ball? Would team employees work with you?

[connorp]

How does authentication work if you decide to keep the ball? Would team employees work with you?

 

Even if they didn’t you’re going to get publicity on the catch. At least local if not national. That said I guess you could still forge a ball but at least a chain of ownership would be established. Someone would prob authenticate it though if team didn’t. That would be an uncomfortable ask lol

[Spanky__99]

The balls in his plate appearances are marked, he'd get it authenticated by the MLB, not to mention the publicity.

[Laika]

Interesting reading about it. Arod was $100k but he clearly didn’t look done (and nobody likes him) so not much significance and that was 2010. Considering it’s Miggy and his last stop at 500- with inflation on memorabilia- going to up it to $200k easy peasy if someone holds it 10 years

 

Many times fans have given it back though. Thomas, Thome, Pujols, Sheffield etc

 

So the jerk play is to get a lawyer and tell the player's reps you want like $50k for it or else you'll just keep it.

[connorp]

So the jerk play is to get a lawyer and tell the player's reps you want like $50k for it or else you'll just keep it.

 

Yeah that would be the half-jerk play I guess. But honestly with how things are going with memorabilia, I’m probably being light with estimations on what you get 10 years from now- selling as he’s being inducted- or after

 

Heck prob could sell now for what I’m saying. I think if you catch it you at least do a quick Google lol. But many do give it back. Heat of the moment that’s what your conscious leads you towards I assume

[Abomination]

So the jerk play is to get a lawyer and tell the player's reps you want like $50k for it or else you'll just keep it.

 

Is it even a jerk play? I mean, players sometimes throw close to that kind of money around at teammates to get a jersey number they want and things like that. Many of the fans out there may have purchased those tickets specifically in the hopes they might catch it, and it might mean a lot to them to have that piece of history too. If it was an underpaid rookie hitting their first home run, that might be very different. For someone hitting their 500th, who has made over 300M in their career, it doesn't really seem unfair to me. Hell, Miggy is making a little under 200K A GAME this year...

[Laika]

Is it even a jerk play? I mean, players sometimes throw close to that kind of money around at teammates to get a jersey number they want and things like that. Many of the fans out there may have purchased those tickets specifically in the hopes they might catch it, and it might mean a lot to them to have that piece of history too. If it was an underpaid rookie hitting their first home run, that might be very different. For someone hitting their 500th, who has made over 300M in their career, it doesn't really seem unfair to me. Hell, Miggy is making a little under 200K A GAME this year...

 

Part of me still thinks it's a bit of a jerk play.

 

Just the act of holding an object of such personal importance to someone else away from them as part of a cold act of negotiation.

 

I'm sure there is a portion of rich players who would refuse to pay significant money for it as a matter of principle.

[Abomination]

Part of me still thinks it's a bit of a jerk play.

 

Just the act of holding an object of such personal importance to someone else away from them as part of a cold act of negotiation.

 

I'm sure there is a portion of rich players who would refuse to pay significant money for it as a matter of principle.

 

I don't know. I still don't really think it's a jerk play, unless they dramatically over-inflate the market value of it. It may be just as personally important to a huge Miggy fan as it is to Miggy (who, for all we know, may not care much about the baseball itself anyhow). Now a jerk play would be if a YouTuber caught it and decided to destroy it on camera for clicks...

[wilko]

I'd keep it and sell it on Kijiji.

[glory]

And Lindor might be another “meh” hitting season away from having the worst contract in baseball. Defense and speed are the first thing to go when you age, so if he’s going to be a roughly league average bat making that much money in his early to late 30’s, good luck.

 

This really wasn't hard to predict 8-10 months ago when the rumors of him being traded heated up, which is why I'm glad the Jays didn't trade for him. He was already trending downwards offensively, and players whose value is driven by defense/speed are not very likely to age gracefully. That contract is already brutal. It will continue to be brutal. I'm sure he'll have some good seasons in the next few years, but the Jose Reyes type of fall off in his early 30's is inevitable.

[wilko]

This really wasn't hard to predict 8-10 months ago when the rumors of him being traded heated up, which is why I'm glad the Jays didn't trade for him. He was already trending downwards offensively, and players whose value is driven by defense/speed are not very likely to age gracefully. That contract is already brutal. It will continue to be brutal. I'm sure he'll have some good seasons in the next few years, but the Jose Reyes type of fall off in his early 30's is inevitable.

 

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[The Cats Ass]

Is it even a jerk play? I mean, players sometimes throw close to that kind of money around at teammates to get a jersey number they want and things like that. Many of the fans out there may have purchased those tickets specifically in the hopes they might catch it, and it might mean a lot to them to have that piece of history too. If it was an underpaid rookie hitting their first home run, that might be very different. For someone hitting their 500th, who has made over 300M in their career, it doesn't really seem unfair to me. Hell, Miggy is making a little under 200K A GAME this year...

 

This is my thinking. I'm 100% keeping the ball unless the player pays up. $50K doesn't seem like an unreasonable ask. If it's a rookies first homerun ball, sure give it back for a signed jersey.

 

Miggy has made $400M off a game because fans comes to watch him. If he doesn't want to give one of those fans 25% of his income for that 1 day, the ball can't mean that much to him.

Edited August 24, 2021 by The Cats Ass

[Stangstag]

I’m quite certain that the fine print of your ticket purchase says that security can force you to give the ball back anyways since technically it isn’t your property. So the right move IMO would be to ask for a signed jersey/meet and greet which is normally seen as acceptable from all parties.

 

Your only chance of keeping the ball would be to catch it and then run away basically. Hide somewhere and leave through the nearest gate before you’re caught.

[Laika]

I’m quite certain that the fine print of your ticket purchase says that security can force you to give the ball back anyways since technically it isn’t your property. So the right move IMO would be to ask for a signed jersey/meet and greet which is normally seen as acceptable from all parties.

 

Your only chance of keeping the ball would be to catch it and then run away basically. Hide somewhere and leave through the nearest gate before you’re caught.

 

https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/ballpark/information/guest-code-of-conduct

 

Foul Balls, Homerun Balls & Bats

 

During the game, fans must stay in their seats except when travelling to concessions, restrooms, or for emergencies and fan services support.

 

All guests are asked to stay alert throughout the game for foul balls or bats that might leave the playing area. Guests are permitted to keep any foul and home run balls that are hit into the seats, but are asked to be cautious and courteous to others when collecting a ball. Bats entering the stands must be returned if requested by the Blue Jays or visiting team. Guests are prohibited from throwing balls back onto the field. Violators are subject to ejection and possible arrest. Any guest that interferes with a ball in play or the game in any way is subject to ejection from the ballpark and/or criminal prosecution.

[connorp]

I’m quite certain that the fine print of your ticket purchase says that security can force you to give the ball back anyways since technically it isn’t your property. So the right move IMO would be to ask for a signed jersey/meet and greet which is normally seen as acceptable from all parties.

 

Your only chance of keeping the ball would be to catch it and then run away basically. Hide somewhere and leave through the nearest gate before you’re caught.

 

I did not know this. It would be new as during Bonds and Big Mac worth millions the ball went to fan

[Laika]

I did not know this. It would be new as during Bonds and Big Mac worth millions the ball went to fan

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popov_v._Hayashi

[connorp]

Remember the jackass in Buffalo trying to keep some org guys first hr ball? Lol. If there was ever a time when security could just take it and knock him to the ground, that wouldve been the time

[RustyTrombone]

Remember the jackass in Buffalo trying to keep some org guys first hr ball? Lol. If there was ever a time when security could just take it and knock him to the ground, that wouldve been the time

 

Chris Gittens IIRC. Guy literally caught it outside stadium property.

[connorp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popov_v._Hayashi

 

That’s really interesting. Forgot about that if I ever knew it

[The Cats Ass]

I’m quite certain that the fine print of your ticket purchase says that security can force you to give the ball back anyways since technically it isn’t your property. So the right move IMO would be to ask for a signed jersey/meet and greet which is normally seen as acceptable from all parties.

 

Your only chance of keeping the ball would be to catch it and then run away basically. Hide somewhere and leave through the nearest gate before you’re caught.

 

You get to keep any balls hit into the stands. It's the bats you have to give back.

[Brownie19]

You get to keep any balls hit into the stands. It's the bats you have to give back.

 

I think what he's saying is that in the fine print - this isn't true IF security wants the ball returned. Obviously that rarely happens (if ever).

[Stangstag]

You get to keep any balls hit into the stands. It's the bats you have to give back.

 

Yes, I guess there is a different rule for balls vs other equipment because I know i’ve seen people forced to give bats back.

[Deadpool]

Yes, I guess there is a different rule for balls vs other equipment because I know i’ve seen people forced to give bats back.

 

Bats are property of the player, balls aren't. I'd assume it boils down to that.

[Spanky__99]

Albies didn't touch that, and now a s***** hit, lol.

 

I hadn't realized that play by Rizzo, he saved them the game.

[BTS]

Albies didn't touch that, and now a s***** hit, lol.

 

I hadn't realized that play by Rizzo, he saved them the game.

 

I'm always astonished at how much Chapman sweats. The brim of his hat is dripping.

[BTS]

Chapman f***ing sucks

[Spanky__99]

I'm always astonished at how much Chapman sweats. The brim of his hat is dripping.

 

I was like that, but it took a few innings. He's drenched coming out of the pen, lol.

[Brownie19]

Does Pujols stick around long enough to get to 700 HRs?

[Stangstag]

I'm always astonished at how much Chapman sweats. The brim of his hat is dripping.

 

Im pretty sure he pours water over his head before he takes the mound