John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 It is a metaphor for the fact he was our ACE last year and people on here are trying to argue Gaviglio is better then Borucki, Richards should a ML spot before Borucki, Borucki should start in AAA. There is not benefit to the best pitcher on our staff in 17 starts to start in AAA. No learning curve benefit and does not reward a player for performance, (there is no contractual reasons like Vlad). It would absolutely be a travesty if he does not get one of the 5 spots, just on principal and optics. In no way, shape or form was Borucki the ace of anything.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Boxy come and get your boy Sorry, I'm disowning him
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 In no way, shape or form was Borucki the ace of anything. Obviously the word ACE is hyperbole and I am having fun with you all. However, he was our best SP in 2018. Fact!
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Sorry, I'm disowning him Man, what happened to through good times and bad times, sickness and health.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Obviously the word ACE is hyperbole and I am having fun with you all. However, he was our best SP in 2018. Fact! Happ
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Happ By what measure...??? I already checked Happ before I made that statement.... Not ERA, not HR rate, not QS.. Happ has him by a little bit in WHIP..
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Man, what happened to through good times and bad times, sickness and health. I have to be consistent. I can't associate myself with cringe of that magnitude, just like I'd never associate myself with Tercet. The lesson you SHOULD be taking from this is: Be better.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 By what measure...??? I already checked Happ before I made that statement.... Not ERA, not HR rate, not QS.. Happ has him by a little bit in WHIP.. Yeah, firm in my decision. We are off to the orphanage first thing tomorrow.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Yeah, firm in my decision. We are off to the orphanage first thing tomorrow. lol
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 I have been on this board long enough and know you guys well enough that when this is all you got, it means I am factually correct. When I am not, you guys, come back with a fire hose of metrics to try and prove me wrong. In this case, you dont like my fecicious nicknames and have to harp on my adoptive relationship with Boxy. Ryan you better not let me down!! Orpanage here I come:(
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Somebody stop this man And y'all stop quoting him
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 Travis is going to end up retiring before he hits 30 isn’t he.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Somebody stop this man Thanks, more data points for my case you are deflecting because you cannot substantiate your argument that started this whole thing.
Maico450 Verified Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Gaviglio has outstanding stats pitching in the 1st inning. Pitch count 1-25.....BA .192 ….. OPS .583..... Babip .205 Then it all goes down hill. Pitches 26 - 50 BA 338... OPS .885...Babip .395 Perhaps he would be the ideal candidate as an opener, or reliever.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Thanks, more data points for my case you are deflecting because you cannot substantiate your argument that started this whole thing. no one wants to waste the time on such obvious evaluations but I'll do it just cause Monday morning at work is slow. Happ's xFIP in Toronto was a full run lower than Borucki, he had a higher WAR, almost double the K rate and a lower walk rate
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 no one wants to waste the time on such obvious evaluations but I'll do it just cause Monday morning at work is slow. Happ's xFIP in Toronto was a full run lower than Borucki, he had a higher WAR, almost double the K rate and a lower walk rate I will you credit that you are at least putting forth a substanative argument to make the case. I am in an airport waiting to board on my cell. However, I recall from memory, Happ allowed 10 more HRs in only 3 more starts and something like (14 more innings- just going off memory). Happ had far less QS with only 3 more starts, and Borucki had a better ERA.. I realize ERA many times is a little skewed by your defense and relief pitchers. It is subjective Happ was better as a Blue Jay last year. It is not clear cut. Happ was getting rocked before the trade. Happ gave up too many HRs and doesnt go long in as many games. I want QSs!
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Me and Spanky are in this one. Win it and youÂ’ll be first in line for one of the dynasties. DonÂ’t be yella! Ironic coming from Old Yeller himself ! Lol Not sure as I have less time to Prepare since The last opening and it may be rushed now for Me to get done! Not sure , oh well Go Jays Go !!! Inspite of ownership and the Fools running the Team , f***ing do the hokey pokey as ya turn yourself about approach !!! So as Vlad The Impaler will Rise, so to Will his brothers in Arms and the Jays !!!
King Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Ironic coming from Old Yeller himself ! Lol Not sure as I have less time to Prepare since The last opening and it may be rushed now for Me to get done! Not sure , oh well Go Jays Go !!! Inspite of ownership and the Fools running the Team , f***ing do the hokey pokey as ya turn yourself about approach !!! So as Vlad The Impaler will Rise, so to Will his brothers in Arms and the Jays !!! I'll co-manage it with you to help with some of the preparation.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Ironic coming from Old Yeller himself ! Lol Not sure as I have less time to Prepare since The last opening and it may be rushed now for Me to get done! Not sure , oh well Go Jays Go !!! Inspite of ownership and the Fools running the Team , f***ing do the hokey pokey as ya turn yourself about approach !!! So as Vlad The Impaler will Rise, so to Will his brothers in Arms and the Jays !!! Draft isn't for 10 days. You have lots of time. Just PM me your e-mail.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 I have been on this board long enough and know you guys well enough that when this is all you got, it means I am factually correct. When I am not, you guys, come back with a fire hose of metrics to try and prove me wrong. In this case, you dont like my fecicious nicknames and have to harp on my adoptive relationship with Boxy. Ryan you better not let me down!! Orpanage here I come:( No, we all collectively facepalm at you using archaic metrics such as ERA/WHIP/QS, etc... without looking, I'd assume Happ was better across the board in K%, BB%, GB%, FIP, xFIP, SIERA, Batted Ball rates, etc, etc... as Boxy said, you should do better, what Borucki has shown is he's better in Good Luck, he might be a FIP beater moving forward but that will show in a larger sample and he could provide a good RA9-WAR along the lines of his idol Mark Buerhle , I wish him well and hope he continues his success, but the pitcher's skill doesn't show this... I said Good Day! Also, fecicious, orpanage, really? lol
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Ironic coming from Old Yeller himself ! Lol Not sure as I have less time to Prepare since The last opening and it may be rushed now for Me to get done! Not sure , oh well Go Jays Go !!! Inspite of ownership and the Fools running the Team , f***ing do the hokey pokey as ya turn yourself about approach !!! So as Vlad The Impaler will Rise, so to Will his brothers in Arms and the Jays !!! PM me your e-mail B's, it's a redraft no prospects, you don't need much time at all, I just drink beer and wing it as I go.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 Come on BBBB, sack up and show Spanky and I what’s what.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 BBBB this is your big break man Not Really a Big Break Brother !!! a) Other league seemed more ummm challenging and Fun !!! Idk this one seems mikey mouse ! IDK optic wise it does Big Break was what happened for was it not or friend or brother or someone’s in the Draft I said I would do and then some new member who just signed up and never posted Got that’s a Big Break and ummm ******** ! c) Big Break would be BTS excepting the original Challenge put Forth and Admin making me Super Mod BBBB the Ban Hammer ... The Time has Come !!! Now those would have been something and Umm Big Breaks ! Instead I got banned again and no reasons given that is not moderation nore right ! While others do and say far worse and our allowed to Ruin the board , the offer nothing of opinion or there own or add to conversation Yet appear out the Dark and from the Speptic Tank to only bash others who are not afraid to Open there mouth and put something out There ! Big Break is ummm I guess subjective like beauty is to the eye of the Beholder I guess ! Send me the Rules and what it is this league Based upon and maybe I will consider it ! Right now Feels Forced and Like Charity To me not a Reward !!! Oh well , have a nice day ! Go Jays Go !!!
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Not Really a Big Break Brother !!! a) Other league seemed more ummm challenging and Fun !!! Idk this one seems mikey mouse ! IDK optic wise it does Big Break was what happened for was it not or friend or brother or someone’s in the Draft I said I would do and then some new member who just signed up and never posted Got that’s a Big Break and ummm ******** ! c) Big Break would be BTS excepting the original Challenge put Forth and Admin making me Super Mod BBBB the Ban Hammer ... The Time has Come !!! Now those would have been something and Umm Big Breaks ! Instead I got banned again and no reasons given that is not moderation nore right ! While others do and say far worse and our allowed to Ruin the board , the offer nothing of opinion or there own or add to conversation Yet appear out the Dark and from the Speptic Tank to only bash others who are not afraid to Open there mouth and put something out There ! Big Break is ummm I guess subjective like beauty is to the eye of the Beholder I guess ! Send me the Rules and what it is this league Based upon and maybe I will consider it ! Right now Feels Forced and Like Charity To me not a Reward !!! Oh well , have a nice day ! Go Jays Go !!! 7 x 7 scoring with 25-man rosters and a live draft tentatively set for the 14th. I'm being sincere when I say I'd like you to join.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Smoak hit a 3 run jack, LGJ went yard also... Borucki 3 IP, 0 R, 2 hits, 3BB, 4K's. Edited March 5, 2019 by Spanky99
Ray Verified Member Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Smoak hit a 3 run jack, VGJ went yard also... Borucki 3 IP, 0 R, 2 hits, 3BB, 4K's. Lourdes Gurriel Jr., not Vlad. Vlad isn't playing today.
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