Rule 5 Draft thread...

[Rusty_Savage]

You are what you eat...Not wink wink.

 

Yeah that's gross. Does it stink too?

[Carlos Danger]

So much envy and jealously on this board. That is ok, I know it is difficult for many of you to get a girl or girls plural to come over and eat pussy when you live in your mom's basement.

 

I am secure in my excellent quality and selection of pussy, just as I am in my belief that Romano will prove you guys wrong.

[Brownie19]

7/8/9 major league hitters are still significantly better than anything this child has faced before. It would also end the chance of him sticking as a starter. Not good for his future at all, unless he somehow has unprecedented success as an 18 year old with no experience thrown in at MLB level.

 

Biagini was good for 1 season - so basically anything is possible.

[Ray]

Maybe they can use the kid as an opener

[TheHurl]

Maybe they can use the kid as an opener

 

doors

[Terminator]

[Bobthe4th]

Biagini was good for 1 season - so basically anything is possible.

 

Biagini was a 25 year old AA pitcher with over 400 minor league innings behind him.

 

Few rule 5 picks stick and it’s more likely that Elvis doesn’t even make it through spring training than he stays on the 25 man for the full season.

[Bobthe4th]

[Brownie19]

Biagini was a 25 year old AA pitcher with over 400 minor league innings behind him.

 

Few rule 5 picks stick and it’s more likely that Elvis doesn’t even make it through spring training than he stays on the 25 man for the full season.

 

yep - I'm aware.

[TheHurl]

How is it that 18 year olds are ready for the NHL and NBA but never the MLB. If American kids could sign at 16 I think we'd see the ageism in the MLB further itself.

[Spanky99]

Yeh sure, another middle infielder, and a DL specialist.

 

lol

[Spanky99]

lol we took an 18 year old named Elvis

 

 

He hasn't pitched above Rookie ball.

 

We took an 18-year old who has never pitched in full-season ball?

 

Doesn't make any sense at all, Birds are tanking hard this year... can't see him staying all year, he'll likely be sent back.

[Spanky99]

maybe he needs Tommy John. Picking him means that he's now on the 40 man and can be put on the 60 day DL. Which would mean 3 years of development and then out of options.

 

This is what I was thinking as well... phantom injuries, let him work in Dunedin.

[Boxcar]

Yeah I posted that above in Davidi's tweet.

 

I would love to know the logic there. "f***s up his development" how? He'll be working with coaches, appearing in games and throwing baseballs. Such a dumb and scouty way to see things.

[rydermike]

Can we have him officially be on the 25 man roster, but have him hang out in Dunedin and practice with the A team all year?

[glory]

If we carry a 19 year old who hasn’t pitched in full season ball yet then Shatkins is definitely tanking 2019. Makes the Stroman and Sanchez talk more logical. There will be zero f***s given for win/loss in ‘19. Can’t say I mind that strategy, but starting it last year would have been better.

[Maico450]

Biagini was a 25 year old AA pitcher with over 400 minor league innings behind him.

 

Few rule 5 picks stick and it’s more likely that Elvis doesn’t even make it through spring training than he stays on the 25 man for the full season.

 

The best answer to this, is why would Jays send him back? If he pitches 40 innings this year, and then spends next year in AA, does it matter?

After 2019 he will be 20, Lots of time to try him out as a SP in the minors.

[Terminator]

If we carry a 19 year old who hasn’t pitched in full season ball yet then Shatkins is definitely tanking 2019. Makes the Stroman and Sanchez talk more logical. There will be zero f***s given for win/loss in ‘19. Can’t say I mind that strategy, but starting it last year would have been better.

 

Yanks and Red Sox are powerhouses and the Rays are going for it. I think it's the way to go too.

[Boxcar]

The best answer to this, is why would Jays send him back? If he pitches 40 innings this year, and then spends next year in AA, does it matter?

After 2019 he will be 20, Lots of time to try him out as a SP in the minors.

 

No, he will NEVER START AGAIN. He may never even pitch again. Hell, he might even die when he comes into contact with a major league mound.

[saskjayfan]

Doesn't make any sense at all, Birds are tanking hard this year... can't see him staying all year, he'll likely be sent back.

 

It makes perfect sense because they are tanking. In the rule 5 you get 24 to 26 year old guys who have had lots off opportunity to prove themselves, but aren't very good. The Jays were able to get a high upside arm who's 18 years old and we don't really know what he is. Keep him in the bullpen all year long and next year he's back to the minors for development and you potentially have a good prospect.

[saskjayfan]

Can you send a guy to the arizona fall league if he's in the majors all year..lol Edited December 14, 2018 by saskjayfan

[BTS]

No, he will NEVER START AGAIN. He may never even pitch again. Hell, he might even die when he comes into contact with a major league mound.

 

Yeah, I don't understand why people think development will stall if he's on the MLB team. Spending a season throwing low-leverage innings against the best hitters in the world, will also being taught by MLB pitchers and the organization's best coaches isn't exactly catastrophic for development.

 

And he at least has an off-speed pitch and control of an upper 90's fastball. It's not exactly a given that he'd get knocked around the park every time he pitches.

[Spanky99]

It makes perfect sense because they are tanking. In the rule 5 you get 24 to 26 year old guys who have had lots off opportunity to prove themselves, but aren't very good. The Jays were able to get a high upside arm who's 18 years old and we don't really know what he is. Keep him in the bullpen all year long and next year he's back to the minors for development and you potentially have a good prospect.

 

Yes, I'm aware, mate. Likely sent back is very possible though. I have no qualms working him up here this year, not at all. If he succeeds, multiple innings aren't out of the question.

[Krylian]

If we carry a 19 year old who hasn’t pitched in full season ball yet then Shatkins is definitely tanking 2019. Makes the Stroman and Sanchez talk more logical. There will be zero f***s given for win/loss in ‘19. Can’t say I mind that strategy, but starting it last year would have been better.

 

Starting it before last year would've been ideal.

[Terminator]

Yeah, I don't understand why people think development will stall if he's on the MLB team. Spending a season throwing low-leverage innings against the best hitters in the world, will also being taught by MLB pitchers and the organization's best coaches isn't exactly catastrophic for development.

 

And he at least has an off-speed pitch and control of an upper 90's fastball. It's not exactly a given that he'd get knocked around the park every time he pitches.

 

It probably is bad for his development (although not catastrophic)but from the team's perspective what do they really care? It's the only way to get a player like him for free. And they can't feel too bad for him, they'll probably develop him better this way than the Royals would the normal way anyway.

[Carlos Danger]

"By the day I turned 18 in 1945, I had already stormed the beaches of Normandy, killed 2 Nazis with my bare hands and another with my can opener (They were a thing back then). Today's generation is a bunch of pussys! This generation is worried about throwing a ball 90ft for millions of dollars.. Oh boo hoo, I was worried about staying alive and keeping my 2 balls attached to my scrotum for 90ft at a time for $15 dollars a month plus .75 cents hazardous duty pay.

 

- Some old guy- (might have been TheHurl, not sure).

Edited December 14, 2018 by Carlos Danger

[Maico450]

In the minors, he pitches 4-5 innings every 5 days against minor league hitters. Then he sits on the bench for 4 days discussing things with other minor league players, gets a bullpen session with the minor league pitching coach.

In the Jays bullpen, he sits with 7 other major league relief pitchers every day, gets a bullpen session with a major league pitching coach/ catcher every couple days, and gets to pitch against fringe major league hitters for an inning every 4-5 games, with a mlb catcher and pitching coach advising him.

Whats not to like, other than his possible results, which probably wont matter?

[P2F]

"By The day I turned 18 in 1945, I had already stormed the beaches of Normandy, killed 2 Nazis with my bear hands and another with my can opener (They were a thing back then). Today's generation is a bunch of pussys! This generation is worried about throwing a ball 90ft for millions of dollars.. Oh boo hoo, I was worried about staying alive and keeping my 2 balls attached to my scrotum for 90ft at a time for $15 dollars a month plus .75 cents hazardous duty pay.

 

- Some old guy- (might have been TheHurl, not sure).

 

[Abomination]

Yeah, I don't understand why people think development will stall if he's on the MLB team. Spending a season throwing low-leverage innings against the best hitters in the world, will also being taught by MLB pitchers and the organization's best coaches isn't exactly catastrophic for development.

 

And he at least has an off-speed pitch and control of an upper 90's fastball. It's not exactly a given that he'd get knocked around the park every time he pitches.

 

It's probably not ideal if you see him as a future starter, but if you see him as a reliever (which seems more likely to me) then this might actually help him develop.

[Spanky99]

It's probably not ideal if you see him as a future starter, but if you see him as a reliever (which seems more likely to me) then this might actually help him develop.

 

Why can't he fall back on starting next season in the minors?