Roberto Osuna ARRESTED

[John_Havok]

No i said we have blow 5-6 saves since his absence, i am not saying he would have saved them all , but i surely believe we would be much much closer to the WD had the idiot not put his ego ahead of his team and career. keep in mind , this happened mid season so it put many in bulpen out of their natural position and comfort zone.

 

DO you think Donaldson's absence, given that he plays everyday, and not only 1/9th of the game when the Jays are winning or tied, might have more impact?

 

Second, do you think he was actually thinking about anything career related when he allegedly struck the woman? Like he was sitting there on his couch thinking "hah, imma hit this bitch because im the Jays closer and nobody can touch me even I do something really stupid."

 

Get a grip.

 

I get you're pissed that he's not throwing right now, and that's fine, but don't pretend to know what his motivations or ego are or were.

[KevinGregg]

Ross Atkins was on Tim and Sid and they asked him if Osuna will be back on the roster when his suspension is over. Atkins said "as far as his ability as a baseball player, he's our closer"

 

So it looks like he won't be punted to the moon, at least that is what they are saying for now

[glory]

 

Atkins not afraid of the SJW’s.

[Krylian]

Ross Atkins was on Tim and Sid and they asked him if Osuna will be back on the roster when his suspension is over. Atkins said "as far as his ability as a baseball player, he's our closer"

 

So it looks like he won't be punted to the moon, at least that is what they are saying for now

 

I read it completely opposite. If it was clear cut, the answer is 'yes'. This dancing around the question means...'he a real talent...enough talent to be our closer' (but we want nothing to do with him here anymore).

[King]

The replies to that will be fun.

[Slade]

[Slade]

I want him back so I'm good with this, we'll see how the SJWs take it.

[Krylian]

I want him back so I'm good with this, we'll see how the SJWs take it.

 

It all depends on what he actually did or didn't do.

[5minutesforframing]

I want him back so I'm good with this, we'll see how the SJWs take it.

 

If he's guilty of what was claimed he shouldn't be anywhere near the team. That's a dangerous precedent to set.

[dineke]

If he's guilty he'll go to jail and serve the time. He can dominate for us when we're a contender in 3 years.

[Slade]

You would think at this point Atkins and the league have all the details they need to comment about it. If they are comfortable bringing him back then I'm good with it. Let the legal stuff take care of itself and what ever comes from it deal with that.

 

I don't think it's bad precedent to set that we are willing to give a guy a second chance after he f***ed up. He's paying the price with a big suspension and still has to deal with the legal proceedings. He's also agreed to go into a treatment program.

 

 

Of course it could all be smoke and mirrors and he is shipped out as soon as possible. Could just let him finish the season with us and trade him in the off season.

[P2F]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/article-blue-jays-closer-roberto-osuna-has-court-date-pushed-to-august/

[onwego]

nice to read his lawyer is convinced things are going quite spiffy

[John_Havok]

nice to read his lawyer is convinced things are going quite spiffy

 

I'm no lawyer, but i'm pretty sure he's say that even if it was going as horribly as possible.

 

Never heard of a peace bond before, but seems like if that's the route they go, that's good news for Osuna.

 

Per wikipedia:

 

In Canadian law, a peace bond is an order from a criminal court that requires a person to keep the peace and be on good behaviour for a period of time. This essentially means that the person who signs a peace bond must not be charged with any additional criminal offences during its duration. Peace bonds often have other conditions as well, such as not having any weapons or staying away from a particular person or place. Peace bonds are similar to a civil court restraining order, and are also based on the lesser burden of proof of civil law.

 

A peace bond can be issued by a criminal court judge or a Justice of the Peace. A peace bond is usually issued when the Crown Prosecutor is convinced that a strong case does not exist against the accused. A person does not plead guilty when they enter into a peace bond. Thus, there is no finding of guilt or conviction registered if a person agrees to sign a peace bond. One of the reasons why a person may agree to enter into a peace bond is to avoid a criminal trial, and ultimately the possibility of being convicted in a court of law of the offence for which they were charged. Being convicted in a court of law would entail receiving a criminal record.

 

The peace bond itself is usually set for twelve months. If a peace bond is signed, then the charges are withdrawn, and the prosecution of those charges is considered to be complete, and those same charges can never be re-instated. However, if one or more of the conditions of a peace bond are broken, either by not obeying one of the conditions, or by getting charged with a subsequent criminal offence within the 12-month period of time in which it was signed, there could be very serious repercussions, as this may result in the person being charged with a separate criminal offence of "breach of recognizance" or "disobeying a court order". The defendant may also be required to forfeit the entire cash surety that they pledged to pay to the court (usually $500 or $1000) when they entered into the peace bond.[5] Breaching any condition of a peace bond is considered a criminal offence. Moreover, as of July 19, 2015, a conviction for breaching a condition of a peace bond carries a maximum sentence of up to four years imprisonment.

[Boxcar]

I'm no lawyer, but i'm pretty sure he's say that even if it was going as horribly as possible.

 

Never heard of a peace bond before, but seems like if that's the route they go, that's good news for Osuna.

 

Per wikipedia:

 

In Canadian law, a peace bond is an order from a criminal court that requires a person to keep the peace and be on good behaviour for a period of time. This essentially means that the person who signs a peace bond must not be charged with any additional criminal offences during its duration. Peace bonds often have other conditions as well, such as not having any weapons or staying away from a particular person or place. Peace bonds are similar to a civil court restraining order, and are also based on the lesser burden of proof of civil law.

 

A peace bond can be issued by a criminal court judge or a Justice of the Peace. A peace bond is usually issued when the Crown Prosecutor is convinced that a strong case does not exist against the accused. A person does not plead guilty when they enter into a peace bond. Thus, there is no finding of guilt or conviction registered if a person agrees to sign a peace bond. One of the reasons why a person may agree to enter into a peace bond is to avoid a criminal trial, and ultimately the possibility of being convicted in a court of law of the offence for which they were charged. Being convicted in a court of law would entail receiving a criminal record.

 

The peace bond itself is usually set for twelve months. If a peace bond is signed, then the charges are withdrawn, and the prosecution of those charges is considered to be complete, and those same charges can never be re-instated. However, if one or more of the conditions of a peace bond are broken, either by not obeying one of the conditions, or by getting charged with a subsequent criminal offence within the 12-month period of time in which it was signed, there could be very serious repercussions, as this may result in the person being charged with a separate criminal offence of "breach of recognizance" or "disobeying a court order". The defendant may also be required to forfeit the entire cash surety that they pledged to pay to the court (usually $500 or $1000) when they entered into the peace bond.[5] Breaching any condition of a peace bond is considered a criminal offence. Moreover, as of July 19, 2015, a conviction for breaching a condition of a peace bond carries a maximum sentence of up to four years imprisonment.

 

Wonder what kind of reaction he'll get on his return. Also wonder what kind of s***** article Sheryl Ring will write about it.

[Krylian]

Wonder what kind of reaction he'll get on his return. Also wonder what kind of s***** article Sheryl Ring will write about it.

 

If he's found innocent, will she still rake him over the coals?

[Boxcar]

If he's found innocent, will she still rake him over the coals?

 

If he's found innocent, it's because patriarchy and misogyny or something

[glory]

Knowing SJW's, if he's found innocent, then it doesn't mean he's not a woman beater. It just means there wasn't enough evidence in this particular case.

 

There is no way of being innocent in this case. Not in the court of public opinion.

[MarcoSanchez]

Knowing SJW's, if he's found innocent, then it doesn't mean he's not a woman beater. It just means there wasn't enough evidence in this particular case.

 

There is no way of being innocent in this case. Not in the court of public opinion.

 

This is the saddest part of the Drop Dead Diva culture we live in. Its no longer about being Guilty or Innocent.

 

Fact of the matter is Osuna is already guilty regardless. Guilty and Innocent are just words now, the outcome for Osuna is almost the same. He will come back to the Jays in August, and probably will be booed out of the building.

[burlingtonbandit]

Knowing SJW's, if he's found innocent, then it doesn't mean he's not a woman beater. It just means there wasn't enough evidence in this particular case.

 

There is no way of being innocent in this case. Not in the court of public opinion.

 

Isn't there a video of him attacking her? Hard to believe he's innocent, you don't accept a 75 game suspension and forfeit almost 2.5 Million if you didn't do anything.

[Slade]

[Brownie19]

If he goes to jail - does his years of control pause?

[Bobthe4th]

Isn't there a video of him attacking her? Hard to believe he's innocent, you don't accept a 75 game suspension and forfeit almost 2.5 Million if you didn't do anything.

 

It’s possible his defence is that it was an argument with fault on both sides. Maybe he’s saying he pushed her and she fell, rather than he hit her.

 

There’s lots of scenarios where he’d still get a ban from MLB for effectively bringing the game into disrepute, but not enough legally to be found guilty of assault. Have to assume MLB talked to him and advised that even if they accept his version, it’s still ban worthy.

[Boxcar]

Isn't there a video of him attacking her? Hard to believe he's innocent, you don't accept a 75 game suspension and forfeit almost 2.5 Million if you didn't do anything.

 

Chapman got 50 games without even getting arrested. Manfred is a crusader of justice, doesn't really seem to matter to him whether you're innocent or not. I guess the policy in place has enough vague language to allow him to do whatever he wants.

[Boxcar]

If he goes to jail - does his years of control pause?

 

No, he keeps accruing service time while he sits in a cell not playing baseball.

[TBJ12]

Isn't there a video of him attacking her? Hard to believe he's innocent, you don't accept a 75 game suspension and forfeit almost 2.5 Million if you didn't do anything.

 

Osuna was charged with basic assault. Had he actually thrown his gf down the stairs or punched her in the face he'd be charged with assault causing bodily harm or aggravated assault. He will not be facing any jail time.

[onwego]

Buffalo Bills have a huge accusation on their hands today started by social media...

[TheHurl]

Buffalo Bills have a huge accusation on their hands today started by social media...

 

The way she approached this should bring out some serious questions about the validity (gone to social media after the break-up rather than to the police) but the guy is a POS. From telling everyone he's coming back to college for his Junior year to stop going to class and ending up that he declared. To his petty feuds with everyone including a restaurant that he didn't tip after the waitress refused to sleep with him. Should be a fun battle this one but this accuser is set up for a different kind of beating (Her post of the injuries happens to also show this picture of her looking hot...that is purposeful.

[onwego]

The way she approached this should bring out some serious questions about the validity (gone to social media after the break-up rather than to the police) but the guy is a POS. From telling everyone he's coming back to college for his Junior year to stop going to class and ending up that he declared. To his petty feuds with everyone including a restaurant that he didn't tip after the waitress refused to sleep with him. Should be a fun battle this one but this accuser is set up for a different kind of beating (Her post of the injuries happens to also show this picture of her looking hot...that is purposeful.

 

 

how do you undo this one if it isn't true???

 

he got in an offseason bar brawl against off-duty cops a few years ago, i was disappointed he didn't have friends around him who could keep him out of altercations like this, at the very least.

[TheHurl]

how do you undo this one if it isn't true???

 

he got in an offseason bar brawl against off-duty cops a few years ago, i was disappointed he didn't have friends around him who could keep him out of altercations like this, at the very least.

 

I just realized it wasn't his gf he beat it was her best friend. I won't edit my statement but it does change things slightly. I did the same thing that many do...I reacted without reading. My bad.

 

Yeah it's one of those tough ones to come back from even if not true, which is the part that sucks. But I won't be surprised if it is true.