Tercet bets against himself, loses $500

[AledmysDiaz]

Barker was a garbage hitter and is a garbage analyst. I have no idea why he has a job. He's like a poor man's Kevin Millar.

 

I think you would make a better analyst/coach, if you were a player who struggled, rather than a naturally gifted player who just instinctively had a superior skill set. Barker made the majors, but he had to fight for every plate appearance he ever got.

 

I urge you to be a Barker convert. He is one of the top minds in all of baseball.

[BTS]

I think you would make a better analyst/coach, if you were a player who struggled, rather than a naturally gifted player who just instinctively had a superior skill set. Barker made the majors, but he had to fight for every plate appearance he ever got.

 

I urge you to be a Barker convert. He is one of the top minds in all of baseball.

 

You're on thin ice here. Tread carefully.

[Brownie19]

I think you would make a better analyst/coach, if you were a player who struggled, rather than a naturally gifted player who just instinctively had a superior skill set. Barker made the majors, but he had to fight for every plate appearance he ever got.

 

I urge you to be a Barker convert. He is one of the top minds in all of baseball.

 

Stop trolling with this Kevin Barker love fest please. You've had your fun, but we no longer believe your serious.

[Brownie19]

You're on thin ice here. Tread carefully.

 

Can we get a list of the new posters and what their previous alias was?

[King]

Can we get a list of the new posters and what their previous alias was?

Aledmys Diaz - Dogg/RealAccountant/MohYou

[John_Havok]

Barker was a garbage hitter and is a garbage analyst. I have no idea why he has a job. He's like a poor man's Kevin Millar.

 

And Millar is damn funny. Barker has the personality of stale cheese.

[AledmysDiaz]

Aledmys Diaz - Dogg/RealAccountant/MohYou

 

I have to know, how did you figure it out. Just love this place so much, cant stay away

[tercet]

Sorry I'm a bit lost have you guys not seem his battling line over the last 7 days 222/333/444? Yea he looked good and bad last night vs Sale, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what type of hitter he is going to be.

[Orgfiller]

Sorry I'm a bit lost have you guys not seem his battling line over the last 7 days 222/333/444? Yea he looked good and bad last night vs Sale, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what type of hitter he is going to be.

First of all, the Blue Jays had an off-day on Monday, so in his last 7 games his actual line is:

 

 

So let's say for some reason you attribute the off-day to have any sort of value to his performance, for which you would still be an idiot. That line is good for a 114 wRC+, on a .250 BABIP with an excellent walk rate and a very passable strikeout rate. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that's a damn good line, yup.

[tercet]

Yep he is going to walk 20% of the time, n1

[Dr. Dinger]

Sorry I'm a bit lost have you guys not seem his battling line over the last 7 days 222/333/444? Yea he looked good and bad last night vs Sale, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what type of hitter he is going to be.

 

Actually his plate discipline gains are making a (semi) believer out of me. His ISO isn't sustainable but the BB and K% improvements bode very well. His career MLB BB rate is now at 9% over about a 1/2 season worth of PA, and at his age there is room for further improvement. He may not be the low-OBP hacker that we assumed was his ceiling. He is showing the promise of a dude who could BB at 10%+, K at under 25%, and post ISOs above .200. That's a legit above average hitter.

[tercet]

Actually his plate discipline gains are making a (semi) believer out of me. His ISO isn't sustainable but the BB and K% improvements bode very well. His career MLB BB rate is now at 9% over about a 1/2 season worth of PA, and at his age there is room for further improvement. He may not be the low-OBP hacker that we assumed was his ceiling. He is showing the promise of a dude who could BB at 10%+, K at under 25%, and post ISOs above .200. That's a legit above average hitter.

 

Time will tell, I want to be wrong, be he still looks silly on anything down and away. Gunna go down sinking in teh anti-teoscar ship

Edited April 27, 2018 by tercet
DOWN I GO

[Dr. Dinger]

Time will tell, I want to be wrong, be he still looks silly on anything down and away. Gunna go down sinking in teh anti-teoscar ship

 

You have some serious contrarian tendencies, Mr. tercet. Have you explored psychologically why you feel compelled to be (perhaps irrationally) pessimistic and adversarial to the opinions of your peers? Are you a 2nd child?

[tercet]

No, not gonna get fooled by some random SSS. I was the equivalent of a teoscar fanboy over SSS back in the days with snider, jpa, ruiz, brad mills, rzep, etc.

 

 

Ill trust his 7 year minor league track record > SSS MLB

[Dr. Dinger]

No, not gonna get fooled by some random SSS. I was the equivalent of a teoscar fanboy over SSS back in the days with snider, jpa, ruiz, brad mills, rzep, etc.

 

 

Ill trust his 7 year minor league track record > SSS MLB

 

260 PAs isn't that small of a sample, especially when we are talking about K and BB rates. I don't want to be too anecdotal, but for him to working 2 walks against Chris Sale is also pretty damn impressive. Seems to indicate that he has taken to heart the need to make improvements to his plate discipline, which I'm sure was made a focus for him by management.

[Ray]

Is Justin Upton best case scenario for what Teoscar Hernandez can be?

 

Upton 162 game avg: .268/.348/.478 120 OPS+ 30HR, 70BB and 170K.

[Jimcanuck]

Is Justin Upton best case scenario for what Teoscar Hernandez can be?

 

Upton 162 game avg: .268/.348/.478 120 OPS+ 30HR, 70BB and 170K.

 

Let's hold off on irrational comparisons until Teoscar has at least gone through the league pitchers more than once. MLB is littered with players that started hot and went cold after the pitchers figured out the weaknesses.

[Spanky99]

Yeah. He made sense if you thought it was a 110-120 wRC+ DH. But a league average (or worse) DH who has no reason to play 1B with Smoak and Pearce around and runs like Pujols? That’s an anchor.

 

Yup, his PA's tonight were the straw that broke the camels back for me, when JD's back, he should be gone, not much rope left.

[Spanky99]

First of all, the Blue Jays had an off-day on Monday, so in his last 7 games his actual line is:

 

 

So let's say for some reason you attribute the off-day to have any sort of value to his performance, for which you would still be an idiot. That line is good for a 114 wRC+, on a .250 BABIP with an excellent walk rate and a very passable strikeout rate. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that's a damn good line, yup.

 

Rekt!

[glory]

Agree that Morales needs to go. Use Grandy and Pearce at DH and roll with Hernandez, Pillar, and Grichuk in the outfield, for better or worse. Morales is not needed, and is no longer good. Plus, Gibbons has this derpy habit of pinch hitting Morales for Pearce, which defies any sort of logic. It needs to end. Swallow your pride (Shatkins) and accept the sunk cost (Rogers). Bad moves happen. No need to prolong it.

[Dick_Pole]

Agree that Morales needs to go. Use Grandy and Pearce at DH and roll with Hernandez, Pillar, and Grichuk in the outfield, for better or worse. Morales is not needed, and is no longer good. Plus, Gibbons has this derpy habit of pinch hitting Morales for Pearce, which defies any sort of logic. It needs to end. Swallow your pride (Shatkins) and accept the sunk cost (Rogers). Bad moves happen. No need to prolong it.

 

But who will be the home town role model for Gurriel????????

[Dick_Pole]

Considering how the Jays got Hernandez and that he was something like the 18th ranked prospect in Houston's farm, if he provides 10 WAR over 5 years as a 4th OF I will consider that a pretty big win.

[saskjayfan]

But who will be the home town role model for Gurriel????????

 

Diaz is from Cuba and they play the same position. There's no more excuses for keeping Morales....eat the money and cut bait.

[Captain Adama]

No, not gonna get fooled by some random SSS. I was the equivalent of a teoscar fanboy over SSS back in the days with snider, jpa, ruiz, brad mills, rzep, etc.

 

 

Ill trust his 7 year minor league track record > SSS MLB

 

Yet here you are using a SSS to spin that Hernandez sucks, and when Org pulls out his actual slash line, you say his good attributes thus far are unreliable because there isn't enough data.

 

Wat.

[Boxcar]

Let's hold off on irrational comparisons until Teoscar has at least gone through the league pitchers more than once. MLB is littered with players that started hot and went cold after the pitchers figured out the weaknesses.

 

We should probably trade him for prospects while the hype is high.

[saskjayfan]

We should probably trade him for prospects while the hype is high.

 

Yeah like we should have traded Bautista in 2010. That hype turned out to be 6 straight all star appearances. Players make adjustments and improve all the time. You don't take a guy who's got elite level physical tools and showing signs of a breakout and trade him for prospects when he has 6 years of control. I think I may have missed some sarcasm so just disregard this post.

[Jimcanuck]

We should probably trade him for prospects while the hype is high.

 

I disagree, given the years of control.

 

I'd be making enquiries related to JA Happ, for sure.

Edited April 28, 2018 by Jimcanuck

[saskjayfan]

I disagree, given the years of control.

 

I'd be making enquiries related to JA Happ, for sure.

 

He wasn't being serious, but it's nice to see you've still given up on the season.

[tercet]

Let's hold off on irrational comparisons until Teoscar has at least gone through the league pitchers more than once. MLB is littered with players that started hot and went cold after the pitchers figured out the weaknesses.

 

What happened to you? 3 years ago you made no sense, stuck your head in the sand, and now you make some sense.

[tercet]

If Teoscar can learn to take the down-away pitches rather then grounding out on them 99% of the time ill be a believer, until then im da #1 hater