GDT 2/3 Blue Jays @ Orioles 7:05 PM ET

[polar bear]

What are you talking about? That was a Quality Start™

 

I thought he was teriffic also.Donaldson almost screwed it all up for the boy tonight.Looking forward to his next start.

[Jimcanuck]

Sanchez has a history of having games with poor stuff and coming up with a QS. Of course the outcome depends on the quality of the opponent also, and the O's suck balls.

[polar bear]

Why is the translator there? Osuna has always spoken perfect English. He seems like a nice guy.

 

LOL I'll never understand the hate for Sanchez

 

The guy has dynamite stuff and is a BLUE JAY

Exactly.

[Jimcanuck]

Possibly some hate Sanchez because he is associated with Thor, who was traded away for an innings eater?

 

Actually didnt the Mets want Sanchez and Jays said no and offered up Thor instead?

[Daniel Labude]

K let's calm down...if we faced a pitcher who had that same kind of start, we'd be ripping our hair out if the Jays didn't absolutely destroy him. Lucky and good are not the same thing. He walked 5 guys ffs.

 

The walks were not bad. When you give up no hits you can walk a few batters. We should not calm down. It was an amazing start! Need a bunch more like it....but that was great.

[Terminator]

K let's calm down...if we faced a pitcher who had that same kind of start, we'd be ripping our hair out if the Jays didn't absolutely destroy him. Lucky and good are not the same thing. He walked 5 guys ffs.

 

Yeah I basically agree. It wasn't a bad start but it certainly wasn't as dominating of a start as you'd expect from someone taking a no-hitter into the 8th.

 

4.25 FIP and 5.67 xFIP.

[nmrch]

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[nmrch]

Possibly some hate Sanchez because he is associated with Thor, who was traded away for an innings eater?

 

Actually didnt the Mets want Sanchez and Jays said no and offered up Thor instead?

 

I don't think its hate, its just that neither the Jays nor Sanchez know what kind of pitcher they want him to be and he isn't making progress toward anything which makes it frustrating as a fan.

[Boxcar]

The walks were not bad. When you give up no hits you can walk a few batters. We should not calm down. It was an amazing start! Need a bunch more like it....but that was great.

 

Some people never learn

[Daniel Labude]

Some people never learn

 

Yes some dont

[Spanky99]

Possibly some hate Sanchez because he is associated with Thor, who was traded away for an innings eater?

 

Actually didnt the Mets want Sanchez and Jays said no and offered up Thor instead?

 

Why do you keep using the word "HATE" Sanchez, that's simply not true.

[Spanky99]

Yeah I basically agree. It wasn't a bad start but it certainly wasn't as dominating of a start as you'd expect from someone taking a no-hitter into the 8th.

 

4.25 FIP and 5.67 xFIP.

 

This. End discussion/

[Grant77]

4? Are you accounting him for two types of fastball, sinker and 4-seam? I don't think we have enough of a sample to say the 4-seam is above-average, and the curve while seemed like a plus pitch in 2016 has completely abandoned him, he's neither getting swings and misses with it nor is he commanding it at all. I'd say his sinker is above-average (with plus-plus potential) when he's throwing it 95-98 like on most nights just purely on its velocity and movement combo, and his changeup has good potential to be above-average, but right now he does not have more than two pitches going for him at the same time, and his command has been awful.

 

Yes, I consider the two seam and four seam to be two different pitches. The four seam is a plus pitch, but it plays down because of his lack of command. I'm not ready to say that he has completely lost the curveball after just 3 starts this season.

[Jimcanuck]

Why do you keep using the word "HATE" Sanchez, that's simply not true.

 

OK whatever. "HATE" Stroman then

[Spanky99]

OK whatever. "HATE" Stroman then

 

Yeah, well that's petty and they're dumn.

[Captain Adama]

The walks were not bad. When you give up no hits you can walk a few batters. We should not calm down. It was an amazing start! Need a bunch more like it....but that was great.

 

Just throw all rationality out the window when it comes to Blue Jays players.

[Sammy225]

The walks were not bad. When you give up no hits you can walk a few batters. We should not calm down. It was an amazing start! Need a bunch more like it....but that was great.

 

5 Walks to 4Ks is not good. He does that more times then not he is going to be in s***......

[Daniel Labude]

Just throw all rationality out the window when it comes to Blue Jays players.

 

Thought I was going to far the other way...I'm getting conflicting info here lol

[Spanky99]

5 Walks to 4Ks is not good. He does that more times then not he is going to be in s***......

 

Don't forget his HBP... his FIP, xFIP were horribad.

[Sammy225]

Don't forget his HBP... his FIP, xFIP were horribad.

 

BABIP was on his side.