Around Baseball 2018

[BTS]

I would rather have Hunter Greene or Jonathan India (obviously). Those two are maybe not off limits, if the Reds are serious about accelerating their timeline while Votto and Suarez are still good.

 

Pillar and Stroman for India or Trammel doesn't even really seem that far-fetched.

[King]

Morton gets 2/30 from the Rays

[BTS]

Morton gets 2/30 from the Rays

 

I don't understand the perception that the league seems to have about Morton's value. First Houston not offering a QO, then nobody being willing to exceed 2/30. Morton is really good, but nobody seems to want him.

[TheHurl]

Morton to the Rays...the most Rays pitcher ever

[Dr. Dinger]

I don't understand the perception that the league seems to have about Morton's value. First Houston not offering a QO, then nobody being willing to exceed 2/30. Morton is really good, but nobody seems to want him.

 

Maybe he's a devout Scientologist, I also don't get it. In all likelihood, he'll earn that entire contract in 2019 and 2020 will be free gravy for the Rays. They way they utilize pitchers, they could probably get 4 WAR out of him in 150 IP.

[Dr. Dinger]

The Yankees should have been all over this deal weeks ago at this price. Give me Morton over JA Happ all day long.

[Grant77]

I want nothing to do with Astros pitchers. Let the Rays have him, we would be far better off with Happ.

[BTS]

The Yankees should have been all over this deal weeks ago at this price. Give me Morton over JA Happ all day long.

 

It's going to make no sense at all when Happ gets 3/45 or something.

[King]

I want nothing to do with Astros pitchers. Let the Rays have him, we would be far better off with Happ.

lol why

[Abomination]

I don't understand the perception that the league seems to have about Morton's value. First Houston not offering a QO, then nobody being willing to exceed 2/30. Morton is really good, but nobody seems to want him.

 

There has to be something more to it that isn't public knowledge. It definitely makes no sense.

[Jonn]

Rays continue to be outstanding at asset management. I would haved loved to have had Morton.

[TheHurl]

I don't think MLB is ready to buy in on the value of the 5 inning pitcher, who happens to be 35.

[BTS]

I don't think MLB is ready to buy in on the value of the 5 inning pitcher, who happens to be 35.

 

I’m legitimately surprised to find he went 6+ innings 18 times last year.

[Abomination]

Looks like there's also an option for a 3rd year at 15M if he stays fairly healthy, but could be as low as 1M if he misses significant time.

[BTS]

Looks like there's also an option for a 3rd year at 15M if he stays fairly healthy, but could be as low as 1M if he misses significant time.

 

Jesus. I wouldn’t have thought twice about just guaranteeing him 3/45

[Daniel Labude]

India and Siri for Stroman, Pillar, and RP.....we got this lol

[Abomination]

India and Siri for Stroman, Pillar, and RP.....we got this lol

 

Stroman, Pillar, and Giles for Senzel (assuming the vertigo issues aren't a concern moving forward)!

[King]

you guys are going to be disappointed when it's Stroman for Shed Long, TJ Friedl and Lyon Richardson

[Grant77]

lol why

 

There's obviously a lot of different stuff going on with their pitchers. Unless we know what it is and can use the same methods then we're better off staying away.

[Daniel Labude]

you guys are going to be disappointed when it's Stroman for Shed Long, TJ Friedl and Lyon Richardson

 

Shed Long is pretty good

[King]

There's obviously a lot of different stuff going on with their pitchers. Unless we know what it is and can use the same methods then we're better off staying away.

Mortons success started in 2016 when he was with the Phillies and started throwing 96.

[Jimcanuck]

Why are the Reds looking to acquire pitching when their entire team is a hot pile of garbage?

 

Probably think Castillo and Mahle and some others are going to be solid / break out.

[Grant77]

Mortons success started in 2016 when he was with the Phillies and started throwing 96.

 

He threw 94 over 4 starts and 17 innings that season. You would expect a slight bump when he only throws 4.1 innings per game.

[Jimcanuck]

Stroman for Trammell would work for me. Then absorb Roark's contract, sign Mike Fiers, etc, to fill out the rotation. Doubt the Reds do it, but F it.

 

I would get my first erection in years if that happened.

 

If the Reds balk, throw in Giles. Trammell has chance to be elite. And he's nothing like Gose, honest.

[King]

He threw 94 over 4 starts and 17 innings that season. You would expect a slight bump when he only throws 4.1 innings per game.

if you want to be a concise, he threw 95.4 (compared to 92.9 in 2015). so you're wrong

[Grant77]

if you want to be a concise, he threw 95.4 (compared to 92.9 in 2015). so you're wrong

 

He averaged 94.3 mph on fastballs according to fangraphs.

 

Besides, it was SEVENTEEN innings. You're obviously being a little sack of s*** troll so do us all a favour and go f*** off.

[King]

He averaged 94.3 mph on fastballs according to fangraphs.

 

Besides, it was SEVENTEEN innings. You're obviously being a little sack of s*** troll so do us all a favour and go f*** off.

 

You're wrong, again.

 

 

94.3 is his career fastball velocity including 2017 and 2018. He averaged 95.4 in 2016.

 

Also, fastball velocity stabilizes quickly so 17 innings was more than enough to be an indicator of his talent level. Not surprisingly, it carried over into 2017 and 2018.

 

your blood pressure spiked even faster than Mortons velocity when he was with the Phillies

[BTS]

I’ve been wanting to do that for like 14 years

[Jimcanuck]

I’ve been wanting to do that for like 14 years

 

He's not wrong though.

[BTS]

He's not wrong though.

 

King would never troll these forums.