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TheHurl Toronto Blue Jays

TheHurl

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Boxbike, Nox, North, Dinger, Hurl, jaysblue, King, Org, havok24 and myself had woody's amongst many others... BTS, glory and SirBJay liked it, but were worried of future complications/handcuffs. Jim was ambivalent, lol. o2 flexed his belly, LTBF s*** himself over Hoffman, etc... Can't find a post from me through 32 pages... I was Bundy'd obviously.

 

I said "Tulo has a great chance of being Reyes 2.0"

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Happens from time to time. There's a tarantula named after Johnny Cash. Literally Aphonopelma johnnycashi

This one because of the black colouration

 

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I prefer that at least to the scientist naming the species after him/herself which is more common.

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Boxbike, Nox, North, Dinger, Hurl, jaysblue, King, Org, havok24 and myself had woody's amongst many others... BTS, glory and SirBJay liked it, but were worried of future complications/handcuffs. Jim was ambivalent, lol. o2 flexed his belly, LTBF s*** himself over Hoffman, etc... Can't find a post from me through 32 pages... I was Bundy'd obviously.

 

What does me and Hoffman have to do with any of this lol

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TheHurl

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Not initially, lies.

 

From the day of the trade.

In response to Jaysblue saying he was out buying a Tulo jersey.

 

I'm buying a Souza Jr. in the off-season. We'll see which one is more liked in 2 years.

 

and was a year younger than Tulo is right now. Tulo won't ever be hated here though...cause he's white.

 

Reyes projection the year after the trade...4.4 WAR Tulo Projection the rest of the this season 1.7 WAR...over 500 PA's 3.8. they are almost exactly in the same place.
P2F Toronto Blue Jays

P2F

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I didn't see this posted yet: Kikuchi will be posted in early December and the (up to) 30-day negotiating window will begin on the 5th.
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I didn't see this posted yet: Kikuchi will be posted in early December and the (up to) 30-day negotiating window will begin on the 5th.

 

I wonder how realistic this is for the Jays. They’re willing to go with their young position players who are mostly cheap and Shatkins never spends any money on the bullpen regardless, so seems like whatever money they have to spend would be enough to make a strong offer here. MLBTR projects 6/42. Years are too high but AAV seems reasonable enough. He’d be there for Vlad’s years so if he’s any good it would fit the team’s timeframe.

 

Of course he will go to the Dodgers, but it’s the boring part of the offseason.

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P2F

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I wonder how realistic this is for the Jays. They’re willing to go with their young position players who are mostly cheap and Shatkins never spends any money on the bullpen regardless, so seems like whatever money they have to spend would be enough to make a strong offer here. MLBTR projects 6/42. Years are too high but AAV seems reasonable enough. He’d be there for Vlad’s years so if he’s any good it would fit the team’s timeframe.

 

Of course he will go to the Dodgers, but it’s the boring part of the offseason.

 

I dunno, but perhaps you should write about this more in-depth early next month at some blog somewhere about the Toronto Blue Jays.

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I wonder how realistic this is for the Jays. They’re willing to go with their young position players who are mostly cheap and Shatkins never spends any money on the bullpen regardless, so seems like whatever money they have to spend would be enough to make a strong offer here. MLBTR projects 6/42. Years are too high but AAV seems reasonable enough. He’d be there for Vlad’s years so if he’s any good it would fit the team’s timeframe.

 

Of course he will go to the Dodgers, but it’s the boring part of the offseason.

 

The years are fine. The contract isn't significant enough to kill the team if it doesn't work out, and the potential reward far exceeds the risk at that AAV, particularly if it isn't backloaded much. Realistically he earns the paycheck even in a #5 starter, innings eater role. Anything beyond that is pretty much profit for the team.

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When was the last time a a significant NPB pitching import failed? Tanaka, Mikolas, Darvish, Maeda, Ohtani, Hirano, Iwakuma, Uehara etc... were all great deals for the team that signed them. The only recent mistake I can think of was Kaz Makita last year, and he only got a 4M guarantee. I guess Kei Igawa sucked liked 10 years ago? I'd love to see Toronto aggressive on Kikuchi.
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When was the last time a a significant NPB pitching import failed? Tanaka, Darvish, Maeda, Ohtani, Hirano, Iwakuma, Uehara etc... were all great deals for the team that signed them. The only recent mistake I can think of was Kaz Makita last year, and he only got a 4M guarantee. I guess Kei Igawa sucked liked 10 years ago? I'd love to see Toronto aggressive on Kikuchi.

 

Dice K? Well he had 1-2 ok years but was really awful afterwards.

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When was the last time a a significant NPB pitching import failed? Tanaka, Mikolas, Darvish, Maeda, Ohtani, Hirano, Iwakuma, Uehara etc... were all great deals for the team that signed them. The only recent mistake I can think of was Kaz Makita last year, and he only got a 4M guarantee. I guess Kei Igawa sucked liked 10 years ago? I'd love to see Toronto aggressive on Kikuchi.

 

Did you completely forget Dice K?

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Just curious, has Toronto ever bid on an Asian import before?

 

Supposedly Darvish

 

Edit: and well everyone made a bid to Ohtani except for the Orioles

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When was the last time a a significant NPB pitching import failed? Tanaka, Mikolas, Darvish, Maeda, Ohtani, Hirano, Iwakuma, Uehara etc... were all great deals for the team that signed them. The only recent mistake I can think of was Kaz Makita last year, and he only got a 4M guarantee. I guess Kei Igawa sucked liked 10 years ago? I'd love to see Toronto aggressive on Kikuchi.

 

Kenshin Kawakami?

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Dice-K was decent until Japan wrecked his arm in the WBC. Not complaining since he played for Boston.

 

Yeah Dice-K never lived up to the hype but was a solid starter when fit. The last significant Japanese pitcher to completely fail was Kei Igawa.

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Signing Japanese players is always a win win. They have that winning Samurai mentality. If they do well they help your team and add positive value.

 

If they do horrible, they commit Hari Kari and then you get out of the contract and open up a roster spot. 😆

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Is it always this slow league wide at the time of the off-season?

 

The past couple of years it feels that way.

 

ANother thing the NBA does better than MLB. Everyone can't wait until the summer with the NBA since there is the draft, free agency, etc. In baseball, every team is trying to outcheap the other, which means FA's linger for months, and front offices now think the same, so even trading seems like it would be a lot harder. Definitely lacking the excitement of years past.

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Is it always this slow league wide at the time of the off-season?

 

Guys are going to want to wait for Harper and Machado to sign. After that the big names go it is usually a waterfall after that.

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