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That would be a truly awful OF.

 

If anything, Pillar, Alford and Hernandez will be by far the most athletic outfield we've had in some time.

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Nice move.. Worse case, I wouldn't mind watching an outfield of Pillar, Alford and Hernandez next year. Athletic as f***.

 

Yup.

 

Hernandez 25

Alford 23

and old man Pillar at 29

 

A welcome change to see guys in the outfield all in their 20's for 2018. Based on this year we'll take it.

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Where does Pearce play?

 

If Morales is still with the team in 2018, Pearce likely is the everyday LF I would imagine (unless he's traded). If Morales is moved, Pearce would become the everyday DH.

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Pretty happy with the trades, wouldn't be suprised if Liriano got it together out of the pen either.

 

I hope we target him in the off-season as a reliever. Some s***** team like San Diego will pay him to start though.

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Pretty happy with the trades, wouldn't be suprised if Liriano got it together out of the pen either.

 

I kinda hope they try and bring back Liriano for next year. Preferably in a relief/spot start role though. I think he'd be a good fit in that role if the Jays can put together a stronger starting 5 for 2018.

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I hope we target him in the off-season as a reliever. Some s***** team like San Diego will pay him to start though.

 

I'm not even opposed to him as a starter, on a one year deal (but obviously at much less than he's making this year).

 

We really, really need at least one solid to high end SP this offseason, and there aren't many really good options. Arrieta, Darvish, and Otani are probably the big three (I don't think Tanaka will opt out). A guy like Estrada or Liriano would make a good 5th starter.

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liriano would scare the crap out me in the pen...you just never know what you're going to get...3 strike outs..or three walks. He could catch fire, but I won't miss him
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Are we really talking about an aoki, Hernandez and pillar outfield moving forward ? My f*** we play in the al east. It was a great trade by Atkins and a great example of asset management but come on
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Are we really talking about an aoki, Hernandez and pillar outfield moving forward ? My f*** we play in the al east. It was a great trade by Atkins and a great example of asset management but come on

 

I would expect more along the lines of Pillar, Hernandez/Pearce, and a FA. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Aoki move in August to a contender.

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Are we really talking about an aoki, Hernandez and pillar outfield moving forward ? My f*** we play in the al east. It was a great trade by Atkins and a great example of asset management but come on

 

What have you done with Bautista in this scenario?

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I'm not even opposed to him as a starter, on a one year deal (but obviously at much less than he's making this year).

 

We really, really need at least one solid to high end SP this offseason, and there aren't many really good options. Arrieta, Darvish, and Otani are probably the big three (I don't think Tanaka will opt out). A guy like Estrada or Liriano would make a good 5th starter.

 

I would take a stab at Otani. His age makes his likely cost not too scary imo. Just wish we could get rid of Morales to provide him some ABs at DH to sweeten our offer.

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I would take a stab at Otani. His age makes his likely cost not too scary imo. Just wish we could get rid of Morales to provide him some reps at DH to sweeten our offer.

 

That's my #1 target if he's posted in the offseason. I think the Jays may be able to justify eating a decent chunk of Morales' contract with the thought of Otani basically being paid to fill two roster spots (pitch one day, DH 3-4 other days).

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I would take a stab at Otani. His age makes his likely cost not too scary imo. Just wish we could get rid of Morales to provide him some reps at DH to sweeten our offer.

 

Assuming Bautista isn't back we've got quite a bit of payroll to play with ($41m coming off the books from Bautista, Estrada and Liriano).

 

Otani would be amazing sign. Could fill the two biggest needs - a starter and an OF, haha. Realistically though, signing him as a starter would help to reinvigorate the atmosphere around the Jays.

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That's my #1 target if he's posted in the offseason. I think the Jays may be able to justify eating a decent chunk of Morales' contract with the thought of Otani basically being paid to fill two roster spots (pitch one day, DH 3-4 other days).

 

For sure. This front office seems progressive enough to try it.

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We'd have to overpay for Otani. The big teams will all make a play and we'd have to give him a reason to come to Toronto. I bet he doesn't even know this city exists.
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We'd have to overpay for Otani. The big teams will all make a play and we'd have to give him a reason to come to Toronto. I bet he doesn't even know this city exists.

 

Obviously we've acquired Nori Aoki to tell Otani about the benefits of living in Canada!

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We'd have to overpay for Otani. The big teams will all make a play and we'd have to give him a reason to come to Toronto. I bet he doesn't even know this city exists.

 

Isn't it like a $25M bid cap tho or something now?

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