Virgil_Hiltz Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 The SPCA should go after the Oriole Hangout since their mascot is even more disgusting than Chief Wahoo! Geesch.....come in the 21st century!
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 The SPCA should go after the Oriole Hangout since their mascot is even more disgusting than Chief Wahoo! Geesch.....come in the 21st century! Real life celebrity and Orioles Hangout mascot Roy Firestone might be responsible for one of the worst interviews of all time and, I agree, he's disgusting and not very pleasant to look at. But I'm not sure why the SPCA should get involved.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Nah - let's leave them in society to commit more crimes and groom future generations. Full disclosure: I'm not educated on this matter at all. I suspect "research" suggests locking them away does have a negative effect on the cycle and I'm sure there are many cases of shoddy, bias police work that is unfairly locking people away for life (not that any system will be perfect). But that's a simple, general concept here. Don't commit felonies - instead, be a decent human being that's a constructive part of society. It's not like it's one and done. You get 3 chances not to be a douche - providing some buffer against the bias police, immaturity + stupidity. I'm sorry, but if you steal from people on 3 separate occasions - f*** you, you're scum. What if your 3 felonies are when you're a teenager? What if you're a drug addict? What if you suffer from an undiagnosed mental issue? What if they are all non violent felonies that would normally carry a 12 month sentence? Offences should be penalised on a case by case basis in relation to the severity of the crime, and the history and circumstances of the criminal. Otherwise the person is condemned forever with zero chance to ever be a "constructive part of society".
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 What if your 3 felonies are when you're a teenager? What if you're a drug addict? What if you suffer from an undiagnosed mental issue? What if they are all non violent felonies that would normally carry a 12 month sentence? Offences should be penalised on a case by case basis in relation to the severity of the crime, and the history and circumstances of the criminal. Otherwise the person is condemned forever with zero chance to ever be a "constructive part of society". The 3 strike rule is penalizing people based on the history of the criminal... I guess there are lots of different circumstances and "some" perhaps have merit and deserve special consideration - but f***, you get 3 chances. It's not like committing felonies is like a habit you have to kick. I'm also not sure being a drug addict is an excuse. At some point, you have to implement harsher penalties for felonies (regardless of circumstances) if the person continues to repeat. Do you think the PED policy in MLB is too harsh? I mean Jenrry Mejia might be a drug addict, so maybe he shouldn't be banned for life.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Dick_pole needs to be punished for steering this glorious thread in a terrible direction. Mods, please make it happen. Well a discussion about felonies isn't totally off topic as the city of Baltimore is a crime-infested hell hole. Remember that time they had to play a game in front of literally 0 fans because violent riots were occurring throughout the city? Lots of felonies that day.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Whatever happened to your Orioles hangout thread I ruined that one too...
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 The 3 strike rule is penalizing people based on the history of the criminal... I guess there are lots of different circumstances and "some" perhaps have merit and deserve special consideration - but f***, you get 3 chances. It's not like committing felonies is like a habit you have to kick. I'm also not sure being a drug addict is an excuse. At some point, you have to implement harsher penalties for felonies (regardless of circumstances) if the person continues to repeat. Do you think the PED policy in MLB is too harsh? I mean Jenrry Mejia might be a drug addict, so maybe he shouldn't be banned for life. There's a big difference from giving harsher penalties the more felonies you commit, and giving life for the third. The first is giving the power to the court to give an appropriate sentence, the second is going to be unjustified in many cases. If the offences are bad enough, they'll get life if it's justified. Some people deserve the chance to change, if they don't they should and will be punished. Drug addict example would be if an addict kicks the habit and sorts their life out. Sorry don't want to derail this thread so I'll leave it there.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I agree with all the softies in here. Let's give all the crack addicts a slap on the wrist and a playful pat on the bum so they can be on their merry way back home to play catch with their kids.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 I agree with all the softies in here. Let's give all the crack addicts a slap on the wrist and a playful pat on the bum so they can be on their merry way back home to play catch with their kids. To bring this back on topic, I'm sure the Orioles TV ratings would rise. Their fans would all be at home watching the games individually instead of 20 or so inmates huddling around a TV while in jail.
devo Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Look at this example of a guy who is currently spending life in prison: Strike 1: Transportation of Marijuana across state lines. More than 1 oz across state lines is a felony and can carry a sentence of 2-4 years. Strike 2: Escape from prison. Guy escaped from prison during his first sentence and was caught. Strike 3: Petty theft with a prior. A couple years after being released from his original stint he got caught shoplifting kids movies at a Kmart. Stuff like this is why the 3 strike rule is f***ed. This guy deserves to be punished for his crimes but his punishment doesn't fit the crimes.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Look at this example of a guy who is currently spending life in prison: Strike 1: Transportation of Marijuana across state lines. More than 1 oz across state lines is a felony and can carry a sentence of 2-4 years. Strike 2: Escape from prison. Guy escaped from prison during his first sentence and was caught. Strike 3: Petty theft with a prior. A couple years after being released from his original stint he got caught shoplifting kids movies at a Kmart. Stuff like this is why the 3 strike rule is f***ed. This guy deserves to be punished for his crimes but his punishment doesn't fit the crimes. Lol one of those crimes is not like the other.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Look at this example of a guy who is currently spending life in prison: Strike 1: Transportation of Marijuana across state lines. More than 1 oz across state lines is a felony and can carry a sentence of 2-4 years. Strike 2: Escape from prison. Guy escaped from prison during his first sentence and was caught. Strike 3: Petty theft with a prior. A couple years after being released from his original stint he got caught shoplifting kids movies at a Kmart. Stuff like this is why the 3 strike rule is f***ed. This guy deserves to be punished for his crimes but his punishment doesn't fit the crimes. The 3 strike rule is f***ed. He should have gone to jail for life after Strike 2 in this scenario!
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2017 Author Posted June 1, 2017 Lol one of those crimes is not like the other. Just a casual "escape from prison" in between possessing some weed and shoplifting DVDs.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 Opening this thread and going straight to page 3:
ChrisS Verified Member Posted June 1, 2017 Posted June 1, 2017 What Adam Jones wrote is cringe worthy. Blacks do face a tougher go, that is for sure. But to blame the lack of a father figure on the three strike rule is just wrong. It sends the wrong message to people. Dont take responsibility on the decisions you have made, blame someone else. I doubt most of those people would be around to nurture and help their children grow up to be good people anyway and Im not talking just about people of colour. Anyone with multiple felonies. I dont agree with the three strike rule fyi Since when is escaping from prison considered a petty crime?
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