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Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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You think he gets all the way through? Bad at all five of his defensive positions...but still would be a fit.

 

Basically what NJH just said.

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Jays should put a claim in on Franklin, f*** Goins.

 

Just go get a Ryan Goins with options, Christ.

 

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Jays should put a claim in on Franklin, f*** Goins.

 

Franklin makes sense.

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It's like you WANT the whole board to make fun of you. If you would just shut up about Goins, people would stop ripping on you all the time.

 

You give us so many opportunities

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It's like you WANT the whole board to make fun of you. If you would just shut up about Goins, people would stop ripping on you all the time.

 

You give us so many opportunities

 

Really?

 

In all honesty, i've rarely been on the board this winter but there's been a lot of sarcasm directed my way regarding Goins, and now with Pillar.

 

You guys are the people who need to grow up.

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It is lost money. If he doesn't get claimed it's a horrible process for players. I know we aren't used to doing $1M favours but it happens in baseball. Again, I have no idea this is what happened but Jays have moved on and their inkling must have been that Upton would not get claimed.

 

I can't imagine the FO punting $1 million just to please a guy who barely played for us. I wonder if he clashed with Gibby or Donaldson or something.

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I can't imagine the FO punting $1 million just to please a guy who barely played for us. I wonder if he clashed with Gibby or Donaldson or something.

 

I'm talking about the difference between DFA'ing him as to outright release. Not why he's not on the team.

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I'm talking about the difference between DFA'ing him as to outright release. Not why he's not on the team.

 

Was he DFA'd or released?

gruber92 Buffalo Bisons

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Released.

 

Strange that they tossed away $1M for nothing, you figure they could have found a trade partner and got something back.

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Either they believe that Carrera has true reverse splits (Jesus f***ing Christ) or Pearce is getting the bulk of OF starts vs LHP. Then I guess they'll do some weird s*** of Morales at first and roving DHs (Martin, Salty, Jose, JD).

 

I don't think Morales saw 1 game at 1B this spring. And since the Jays said he was going to get a few games I have to wonder if he will be anything more than a DH.

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Smoak is going to start at 1B with Pearce at LF I assume.

 

By late May, Pearce will hopefully be at 1B and we'll have a new LF while Smoak is waived.

 

Actually the best case scenario is that Smoak flourishes. The concern about Pearce being able to stay off the DL should not be discounted. But I agree that the likely scenario is that Smoak is given a 6-8 week chance to prove himself, fails, and is sent packing (which I would assume is an outright assignment to AAA), with Pearce then playing 1B regularly (or sharing with Morales?). No point in just cutting Smoak completely and paying him for nothing, unless there are attitude/behavior issues as suspected with Upton. It would be nice if he would be foolish enough to refuse the assignment and thus forgo the remainder of his contract (assuming he has enough service time to be able to make that choice), but allowing that to occur would set his agent up for the worst case of professional malfeasance in sports history.

 

Either they believe that Carrera has true reverse splits (Jesus f***ing Christ) or Pearce is getting the bulk of OF starts vs LHP. Then I guess they'll do some weird s*** of Morales at first and roving DHs (Martin, Salty, Jose, JD).

 

It is a bit of a hodgepodge at this point between 1B and LF. Maybe they are thinking of giving LF to Pearce and 1B to Smoak -semi-full time and Zeke subs in for Pearce and Bautista 1 game each per week? So on a game against LHP, Bautista/Pearce gets day off from RF/LF and plays DH or 1B with Zeke in LF/RF and Smoak on bench?

 

As far a Zeke reverse splits - yeah it keeps showing up if you look at the different seasons but such small numbers of PA, especially against lefties. Should see what his minor league splits look like.

 

Another possibility is giving Barney starts in LF (with Pearce moving to 1st) against lefties. Of course all this changes once you have 1 or more regulars go down to injury.

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Here is a good article on why the Jays did what they did. Apparently teams were willing to give up something to get Ryan Goins, which I still don't understand because he isn't a good player.

 

http://toronto.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2017/04/02/the-info-that-went-into-making-the-blue-jays-opening-day-roster-decisions/?utm_content=bufferec02d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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Here is a good article on why the Jays did what they did. Apparently teams were willing to give up something to get Ryan Goins, which I still don't understand because he isn't a good player.

 

http://toronto.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2017/04/02/the-info-that-went-into-making-the-blue-jays-opening-day-roster-decisions/?utm_content=bufferec02d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Gruber wins again.

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I don't think Morales saw 1 game at 1B this spring. And since the Jays said he was going to get a few games I have to wonder if he will be anything more than a DH.

 

I watched Jays in 30 last night and he was on first for at least one inning.

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King

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My favorite part of that article is where we had the chance to trade the out of options version of Ryan Goins for multiple choices of a living body and we turned it down.
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My favorite part of that article is where we had the chance to trade the out of options version of Ryan Goins for multiple choices of a living body and we turned it down.

 

Which team in the AL is banged up enough to use Goins as a starter?

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