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Jays looking to replace Upton

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From Buster Olney: Sources: The Jays are looking at alternatives to Melvin Upton, Jr. for their roster, although they have not made a final decision. Bottom line: Melvin Upton, Jr. won't be with the Jays for Opening Day.
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More from Buster: Jays r listening on Melvin Upton. Among teams that make sense: tigers, o's, rays, giants
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Here is how this works...

 

The Jays figure that the talent is about equal for all of their fringe position players (Zeke, Upton, Goins, Coghlan, others). This could include external players like Pagan.

Of the players they could potentially cut, they think Upton probably is the one that might have some trade value. He does have the loudest tools, and if you squint (and ignore recent history) he's a solid 4th OF on paper.

So, they tell teams that they are listening on him and/or they let it leak to an established reporter that he is on the bubble.

 

Depending on what they can get, trading Upton might be better than keeping him and cutting another player.

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If they release Upton it will be retarded. I mean he's frustrating but atleast he can do some good things. Zeke and Goins are useless players. Goins defence is completely redundant on this roster.
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Here is how this works...

 

The Jays figure that the talent is about equal for all of their fringe position players (Zeke, Upton, Goins, Coghlan, others). This could include external players like Pagan.

Of the players they could potentially cut, they think Upton probably is the one that might have some trade value. He does have the loudest tools, and if you squint (and ignore recent history) he's a solid 4th OF on paper.

So, they tell teams that they are listening on him and/or they let it leak to an established reporter that he is on the bubble.

 

Depending on what they can get, trading Upton might be better than keeping him and cutting another player.

 

But the other player being cut would be Goins who, as history has shown, can be DFA'd without being claimed as he's done a few times before. So there's no risk on dropping someone that can be picked

 

What's interesting to me is why now? Why wait until the end of ST? I'm guessing some teams have filtered their OF options by now and realize they might have a need for him? But I can't see him netting us more than another team's garbage... he would be fine if he has a platoon partner and he has good speed and decent defence off the bench. We don't have anyone other than Pillar who can naturally play CF... unless Pompey is set to be in the Upton role?

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What's interesting to me is why now? Why wait until the end of ST? I'm guessing some teams have filtered their OF options by now and realize they might have a need for him?

 

Yeah, some depth charts shrink as the season gets closer. Players get hurt, minor league players appear to not be ready, etc.

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From Heyman: Orioles "not a fit" for melvin Upton I hear.

 

Their fans just don't like him

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Yeah, some depth charts shrink as the season gets closer. Players get hurt, minor league players appear to not be ready, etc.

 

True, I wonder if he would net anything useful. Maybe a BP piece, or a similarly-inconsistent outfielder for a change of scenery but even with his cheap salary I doubt we get anything of significance

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True, I wonder if he would net anything useful. Maybe a BP piece, or a similarly-inconsistent outfielder for a change of scenery but even with his cheap salary I doubt we get anything of significance

 

Any depth SP with a pulse and an option left would maybe suffice...

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Having to waive Bolsinger will really hurt the depth chart, if he doesn't clear.
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Any depth SP with a pulse and an option left would maybe suffice...

 

Yeah that's what I think we'll get. If the org is dead set on not having him anymore then anything is welcome at this point.

 

By the way, what's up with Pompey? Haven't followed the team closely this ST but he did well in the beginning and for Canada before his concussion, is he still injured ?

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Yeah Pompey's concussion symptoms are sticking around. They're being very careful with him.
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It would be nice if the front office explained these decisions instead of just leave us wondering what the f***. You don't want Upton. But you're fine with rostering Smoak, Zeke, and Goins. Atleast Upton had speed.
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It would be nice if the front office explained these decisions instead of just leave us wondering what the f***. You don't want Upton. But you're fine with rostering Smoak, Zeke, and Goins. Atleast Upton had speed.

 

They might still keep Upton. This could just be a feeler.

 

And this FO is actually really good at explaining things, IMO. They are very forthcoming, especially compared to AA's gibberish PR philosophy.

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It would be nice if the front office explained these decisions instead of just leave us wondering what the f***. You don't want Upton. But you're fine with rostering Smoak, Zeke, and Goins. Atleast Upton had speed.

So you feel Shartkins should consult with you prior to making any moves?

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It would be nice if the front office explained these decisions instead of just leave us wondering what the f***. You don't want Upton. But you're fine with rostering Smoak, Zeke, and Goins. Atleast Upton had speed.

 

Same can be said about Zeke. Smoak is just mind boggling, we are rostering 3 1B on the team with the 4th one being Bautista in emergency situations, if Pompey starts on the DL we're going to be carrying only 4 outfielders?

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Same can be said about Zeke. Smoak is just mind boggling, we are rostering 3 1B on the team with the 4th one being Bautista in emergency situations, if Pompey starts on the DL we're going to be carrying only 4 outfielders?

Pearce & Goins can play OF. Maybe part of this plan is to sign Pagan.

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From Heyman: Tigers also feel fine with speedy rookie Jacoby Jones in CF. So we won't see Upton Bros. 3.0

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