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Daniel Labude

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If anyone wants scouting reports from the top 50 I have them.

 

Seth Romero seems pretty intriguing to me.

 

 

JJ Schwarz is no longer Top 50/100 right?...

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metafour First Round Pick

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Just did some Twitter digging. Blue Jays scouts were seen watching 6'6 175 pound HS RHP Caden Lemons two days ago. Lemons is ranked #74 on MLB.com and #96 on BA.
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Just did some Twitter digging. Blue Jays scouts were seen watching 6'6 175 pound HS RHP Caden Lemons two days ago. Lemons is ranked #74 on MLB.com and #96 on BA.

 

6'6" 175? Sit that kid down and give him a meal.

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6'6" 175? Sit that kid down and give him a meal.

 

Dreamy projectable body. He has blonde flowing locks as well.

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Dreamy projectable body. He has blonde flowing locks as well.

 

That has to be intimidating as f*** going up to the plate to face him.

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Twins leaning towards taking a college player 1st over Hunter Green. Their say Brendan Mckay. Is this a good move.

 

Hard to say without knowing the $$

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Twins leaning towards taking a college player 1st over Hunter Green. Their say Brendan Mckay. Is this a good move.

 

Personally, I don't like the move, simply because McKay's two-way talents realistically don't boost his overall value. You've got people who feel he's a pitcher moving forward, but in this case is he even better than Kyle Wright from Vanderbilt? I don't think so, and in fact most people will probably tell you that they like Wright better. Then you've got people who feel his future is at 1B, but again even though he projects well here, you're now talking about drafting a 1B #1 overall...and how much better (if at all) is he than someone like Pavin Smith in this outcome?

 

With Greene you are at least getting the highest upside player in the draft, even though the risk is obviously higher. With McKay I just see too much of a chance wherein you make him a pitcher and yet Kyle Wright or someone else becomes better, or you make him a hitter and he simply only becomes "good" because the offensive expectation for 1B is so high.

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This was literally the game they were spotted at LOL:

 

 

He passes the eye test for me. Nice smooth, simple delivery (although it looks like he's a little inconsistent with his landing foot). Colour me intrigued.

metafour First Round Pick

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Personally, I don't like the move, simply because McKay's two-way talents realistically don't boost his overall value. You've got people who feel he's a pitcher moving forward, but in this case is he even better than Kyle Wright from Vanderbilt? I don't think so, and in fact most people will probably tell you that they like Wright better. Then you've got people who feel his future is at 1B, but again even though he projects well here, you're now talking about drafting a 1B #1 overall...and how much better (if at all) is he than someone like Pavin Smith in this outcome?

 

With Greene you are at least getting the highest upside player in the draft, even though the risk is obviously higher. With McKay I just see too much of a chance wherein you make him a pitcher and yet Kyle Wright or someone else becomes better, or you make him a hitter and he simply only becomes "good" because the offensive expectation for 1B is so high.

 

...and there you go:

 

 

https://twitter.com/FPiliereD1/status/864526429509341186

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jays4life19

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Better be pretty sure about the bat to take a 1B in that spot

 

He's pretty intriguing. The power is starting to show up this year; .279 ISO + 8 bombs. I'd be happy with Seth Romero + Evan White

baubau FCL Blue Jays

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Even though mock drafts are useless in baseball their still fun to read.

 

BA Mock 3.0.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-mlb-draft-3-0-major-league-baseball-draft/#pueG4J4rZrhWROxm.97

 

have the Jays taking Evan White + Alex Lange

 

More funsies:

 

2080 Baseball Mock: https://2080baseball.com/2017/05/mlb-draft-bites-mock-draft-edition-05-19-2017/

 

22. Logan Warmoth

28. Brendon Little

 

MLB John Mayo: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/231085504/jonathan-mayo-mock-projection-2017-mlb-draft/

 

22. Keston Hiura

28. Bubba Thompson

 

 

Hero Sports: http://herosports.com/mlb/baseball-mlb-mock-draft-twins-reds-get-two-way-stars-astros-tab-uvas-haseley-c6c6

 

22. Royce Lewis

28. Nate Pearson

 

 

More reasons why mocks are useless lol. Will vary depending on who you ask.

 

Better be pretty sure about the bat to take a 1B in that spot

 

From all the reports (I have never seen him play) his defense at 1B is great. Could likely be moved back and forth from 1B-OF to see what he brings. MLB's report:

Run: 60 | Arm: 55 | Field: 70

Whichever team drafts White will have to decide whether to deploy him as a potential Gold Glove first baseman or to try him in the outfield.

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More funsies:

 

2080 Baseball Mock: https://2080baseball.com/2017/05/mlb-draft-bites-mock-draft-edition-05-19-2017/

 

22. Logan Warmoth

28. Brendon Little

 

MLB John Mayo: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/231085504/jonathan-mayo-mock-projection-2017-mlb-draft/

 

22. Keston Hiura

28. Bubba Thompson

 

 

Hero Sports: http://herosports.com/mlb/baseball-mlb-mock-draft-twins-reds-get-two-way-stars-astros-tab-uvas-haseley-c6c6

 

22. Royce Lewis

28. Nate Pearson

 

 

More reasons why mocks are useless lol. Will vary depending on who you ask.

 

 

 

From all the reports (I have never seen him play) his defense at 1B is great. Could likely be moved back and forth from 1B-OF to see what he brings. MLB's report:

Run: 60 | Arm: 55 | Field: 70

Whichever team drafts White will have to decide whether to deploy him as a potential Gold Glove first baseman or to try him in the outfield.

 

Bellinger Jr? :o

baubau FCL Blue Jays

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Bellinger Jr? :o

 

Haha. Don't think White has the same power potential but sure! Never seen either play live and only read on prospects.

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jays4life19

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This article is a bit of a buzz kill..

 

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An area scout was discussing his region. But based on conversations with scouts around the country, he may as well have been talking about the whole 2017 draft class.

 

image: http://www.baseballamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/John-Manuel.gif

 

“I feel like a beachcomber with a metal detector,” he said, “and all I keep finding is a broken earring here or there.”

 

Scouts do not expect to look back at the 2017 draft with fondness. But they will look back and find big leaguers, even impact big leaguers, who came out of this class.

 

They’re just harder to find, and a bit less obvious.

 

That’s the consensus of opinion as the draft hurdles toward its three-day peak, with the first two rounds (and competitive balance rounds) held June 12, followed by Rounds 3-40 on June 13-14.

 

The Twins select first, in a year without the kind of dominant college pitcher or hitter that makes picking No. 1 overall easy. The Reds, Padres, Rays and Braves round out the first five teams making selections.

 

Derek Falvey, in his first year as Minnesota’s chief baseball officer, and new general manager Thad Levine have three scouting directors, past and present, on the staff helping make the 1-1 pick. Player personnel vice president Mike Radcliff, senior advisor Deron Johnson and first-year scouting director Sean Johnson give Minnesota an enviable group of decision-makers for the process, and Radcliff hit a home run for the Twins when the club last picked at No. 1 overall, in 2001. Minnesota drafted Joe Mauer, taking him over Mark Prior.

 

This class’ top talents include Southern California two-way prep phenom Hunter Greene, a spectacular talent vying to become the first-ever prep rightander picked No. 1 overall; Louisville’s two-way star Brendan McKay, a unique prospect with a virtually unblemished amateur track record but modest fastball velocity by today’s standards; and the top college pitcher on the board, Vanderbilt righthander Kyle Wright.

 

McKay and Greene are legitimate first-round talents both as a hitter and as a pitcher. McKay could be picked in the first five picks either way, while the industry values Greene as a potential first-rounder as a power-hitting shortstop but not as highly as he’s regarded as a pitcher. As one scout put it early in the spring, “He’s got big raw power, he’s got a nice easy swing . . . but it’s hard to walk away from 100 (mph) with that low-effort delivery.”

 

McKay’s fastball velocity had dropped into the 88-91 mph range down the stretch as he added a cut fastball and seemed to wear down under his two-way workload. However, he ranked 10th in the country with 116 strikeouts and had hit 15 home runs. Meanwhile, Wright was surging down the stretch, showing four plus pitches after a slow start and striking out 62 while allowing just 17 hits in his final six regular season starts, posting a 1.16 ERA over 46.2 innings.

 

McKay and Wright are part of a group of college pitchers that was expected to be a strength of the draft class, but the rest of the group—including righthanders such as North Carolina’s J.B. Bukauskas, UCLA’s Griffin Canning, Florida’s Alex Faedo, Missouri’s Tanner Houck, LSU’s Alex Lange—has had solid rather than spectacular returns. Oregon lefthander David Peterson was among the small group of college arms that had taken a step forward, but a larger, injury-riddled collection had taken steps back, a clutch of arms including South Carolina righthander Clarke Schmidt (elbow surgery) and Stanford righty Tristan Beck (back). Another top college arm, Houston’s Seth Romero, joined the wild-card group by getting suspended and then kicked off the Cougars’ roster for a pair of incidents.

 

Scouts have panned the college hitter class regularly since the outset of the spring, with the movers including rare middle-of-the-diamond performers such as Virginia center fielder Adam Haseley and North Carolina shortstop Logan Warmoth and corner bats such as Kentucky first baseman Evan White, Louisville third baseman Drew Ellis and Arizona first baseman J.J. Matijevic.

 

That leaves riskier preps, especially pitchers and tooled-up outfielders, who are expected to flood the draft roughly from picks 20-75. North Carolina prep lefty MacKenzie Gore and Texas righty Shane Baz might have played their way into the top 10, and outfielders Jordon Adell (Louisville, Ky.) and Austin Beck (Lexington, N.C.) might have done so as well.

 

But there might not be much separation between Adell, Beck and athletic high school outfielders such as Alabama’s Bubba Thompson, Puerto Rico’s Heliot Ramos, Georgia’s Drew Waters and New York’s Quentin Holmes. Each offers high risk but also high rewards, so most top evaluators expected those players to start hearing their name called in the supplemental round, when teams start having their second and third selections.

 

The old Paul Snyder axiom rules the prep pitching class; the former Braves scouting director used to tell his scouts, “You need 10 to get two (to the majors).” This class has that kind of depth, with lefthanders D.L. Hall (Alabama) and Trevor Rogers (New Mexico) heading a solid crew of lefthanders. The pool of prep righthanders includes pitchers of various stripes, from hard-throwing Minnesotan Sam Carlson to Californians such as Matt Sauer and Hans Crouse to projection plays such as Louisiana’s Blayne Enlow and Alabama’s Tanner Burns.

baubau FCL Blue Jays

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Another mock, but from BA:

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-mock-draft-3-5/

 

Haseley and Rogers are both seemingly gaining a ton of helium as we get closer to draft day.

 

Anything can happen and mocks are useless, but yeah, unlikely that Haseley / Rogers is there when the Jays pick. Who knows! Grome fell quite a bit last year and Zimmerman fell to the Indians and SRF fell too. Someone usually drops. Maybe the jays get lucky.

baubau FCL Blue Jays

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Stro fell to the jays..

 

Please, don't bring up the 2012 draft..

 

17 D. J. Davis Toronto Blue Jays

18 Corey Seager Los Angeles Dodgers

19 Michael Wacha St. Louis Cardinals

29 Lewis Brinson Texas Rangers

32 José Berríos Minnesota Twins

36 Stephen Piscotty St. Louis Cardinals

39 Joey Gallo Texas Rangers

41 Lance McCullers, Jr. Houston Astros

 

 

I know, I know. Hindsight is 20/20, but .. but.. much tears.

Krylian MVP

Krylian

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Please, don't bring up the 2012 draft..

 

17 D. J. Davis Toronto Blue Jays

18 Corey Seager Los Angeles Dodgers

19 Michael Wacha St. Louis Cardinals

29 Lewis Brinson Texas Rangers

32 José Berríos Minnesota Twins

36 Stephen Piscotty St. Louis Cardinals

39 Joey Gallo Texas Rangers

41 Lance McCullers, Jr. Houston Astros

 

 

I know, I know. Hindsight is 20/20, but .. but.. much tears.

 

Is it hindsight though? Quite a few of those names were on my radar back then...Seager, Gallo, and McCullers specifically.

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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You could do that in just about every draft in the history of baseball man.

 

 

But yes. Screw you for reminding me of what could have been.

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