Around Baseball 2017

[G-Snarls]

Rays also eating some salary or sending cash in the trade to SF Giants

[AGL_91]

The heat just got turned right up on STL. If they do want to make a splash at 3B it’s JD or bust now, which is good news for us

[Spanky99]

Ken Rosenthal:

 

BREAKING: Orioles closer Zach Britton ruptured his Achilles yesterday working out in California. Expected to be out at least six months.

 

See above, bro, lol.

[z3r0s]

The heat just got turned right up on STL. If they do want to make a splash at 3B it’s JD or bust now, which is good news for us

 

What about that Machado fellow?

[glory]

If the O’s decide to hold on to Machado, then the ball is in STL’s court when it comes to trade for JD. All it takes is one desperate GM.

[AGL_91]

What about that Machado fellow?

 

You got me.

M

[Terminator]

The Rays are going to take a step back and rebuild it looks like. Sounds like the Orioles might be doing the same. Do the Jays follow them or do they chase the Yanks and Red Sox? There is room for all 3 to make the playoffs.

[Ehjays]

What about that Machado fellow?

 

Well, Machado has already stated his preference is to play Shortstop this year. Not sure if its a problem to remain at 3rd.

[Ehjays]

Archer is next.

[Bobthe4th]

If the Rays now decide to rebuild they could stock their farm quickly. Archer could get them a hell of a return.

[G-Snarls]

The Rays are going to take a step back and rebuild it looks like. Sounds like the Orioles might be doing the same. Do the Jays follow them or do they chase the Yanks and Red Sox? There is room for all 3 to make the playoffs.

 

In theory there is

 

But I'd bet against 3 AL East teams making the playoffs in 2018 unless Jays or Orioles add significantly. And I just don't see that happening

[z3r0s]

I'd wouldn't make a bet the Jays make the playoffs next year, but I don't see us tearing it down this OS. There is a business case to going for it one more time and although it could hurt our rebuild to wait until the deadline, its not like we'll walk away with nothing for guys like JD (unless he hurts himself :s).

 

End of the day this is baseball. The fact its a business is real. Not to mention the fact that anything can happen during a season. The Yanks or Sox are not sure bets to perform next year. The O/S winners don't always end up doing well.

 

I trust the FO to make good baseball decisions, even if those are affected by some financial/public perception decisions

[Brownie19]

I'm kind of sad to see Longoria go. It's been great watching him in the AL East all these years. His 2 Hrs, including a walk off to win the 2011 wild card was awesome. My parents have a spot in Port Charlotte too (Rays STing home) and we always catch a Rays game when we visit. I have a couple Longo autographs and he's always really nice to the fans. I wear a knock off Longoria jersey to the games. He will be missed.

[Brownie19]

If the Rays now decide to rebuild they could stock their farm quickly. Archer could get them a hell of a return.

 

Kiermaier too...

[Terminator]

Seems like so many teams are rebuilding (giving the non-rebuilding teams a chance to fill their holes via trade) or are patiently waiting to sign someone. I think there are going to be some good deals coming up.

[sdyment]

Seems like so many teams are rebuilding (giving the non-rebuilding teams a chance to fill their holes via trade) or are patiently waiting to sign someone. I think there are going to be some good deals coming up.

 

IMHO that’s Shatkins plan this OS. Sign veterans to short cheapish deals ala WS winning Sox. Either lightning strikes and the planets align or we ship out the whole lot at the deadline.

 

I don’t see any other way to succeed at their stated plans.

[BTS]

Seems like so many teams are rebuilding (giving the non-rebuilding teams a chance to fill their holes via trade) or are patiently waiting to sign someone. I think there are going to be some good deals coming up.

 

Your boy Eduardo Nunez is still out there!

[Terminator]

Your boy Eduardo Nunez is still out there!

 

Wait him out and maybe we can get him on a 2 year deal.

[xposbrad]

The heat just got turned right up on STL. If they do want to make a splash at 3B it’s JD or bust now, which is good news for us

 

Well, I don't think JD is going to get as big of a return as the fans here think. Maybe that's why he hasn't been traded. Although, I am more of the mindset that I don't think the Jays compete this year no matter what they do, and I rather get 1 top 100 prospect now, then risk JD getting injured or having a bad year and getting even less at the deadline.

[glory]

Well, I don't think JD is going to get as big of a return as the fans here think. Maybe that's why he hasn't been traded. Although, I am more of the mindset that I don't think the Jays compete this year no matter what they do, and I rather get 1 top 100 prospect now, then risk JD getting injured or having a bad year and getting even less at the deadline.

 

So trade him for s*** now so you don't have to trade him for lesser s*** in July or lose him for a comp pick after the season? That doesn't exactly help a rebuild, and if one top 100 prospect is all the Jays can get for him, then f*** it, just keep him and see what happens in 2018.

[xposbrad]

So trade him for s*** now so you don't have to trade him for lesser s*** in July or lose him for a comp pick after the season? That doesn't exactly help a rebuild, and if one top 100 prospect is all the Jays can get for him, then f*** it, just keep him and see what happens in 2018.

 

Well, would you have been happy if we got the same return the Rays got for Longo?

[Spanky99]

Well, would you have been happy if we got the same return the Rays got for Longo?

 

Longo's owed over 80 million. Them getting Arroyo's not that bad.

[Terminator]

Longo's owed over 80 million. Them getting Arroyo's not that bad.

 

Yeah I don't know the money exchanging hands but Longo is owed a lot of money still. He hasn't been that much better than Frazier over the past couple of years and I bet he signs for a lot cheaper. Getting Arroyo on top of the salary dump isn't that bad.

[Brownie19]

P.Tucker to the Braves

[G-Snarls]

Active players with longest tenure with one team:

 

David Wright (2004-

Joe Mauer (2004-

Yadi Molina (2004-

Felix Hernandez(2005-

Ryan Zimmerman (2005-

Dustin Pedroia (2006-

Adam Wainwright (2006-

Joey Votto (2007-

Ryan Braun (2007-

Alex Gordon (2007-

Homer Bailey (2007-

❌ Evan Longoria (2008-2017)

 

Source - CEspedesBBQ Twitter

[Spanky99]

Yeah I don't know the money exchanging hands but Longo is owed a lot of money still. He hasn't been that much better than Frazier over the past couple of years and I bet he signs for a lot cheaper. Getting Arroyo on top of the salary dump isn't that bad.

 

They'll likely flip Span now, too. Eating money as well.

[Pendleton]

If there are Rays fans this is a sad day for them.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

If there are Rays fans this is a sad day for them.

 

Yeah. In terms of good players/good people who define a franchise... I can't think of many who I would put at his level

[GreekFatAss]

 

J.D. Martinez