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[Spanky99]

O's lose!

[Spanky99]

So the Judge did it again 2 run oppo taco to win the game in the 8th, Betances seals the deal.

[G-Snarls]

Yankees have won 6 in a row

 

Orioles have lost 5 in a row

 

What a difference one week can make. Yikes.

[G-Snarls]

If we beat Tampa tonight every AL East team is at .500 or better

 

(Edit: Orioles at .500 now so they could lose and mess that up which would be fine LOL)

[Effit]

The only thing that has kept the O's heads above water are the games they played against us.

[Bobthe4th]

If we beat Tampa tonight every AL East team is at .500 or better

 

(Edit: Orioles at .500 now so they could lose and mess that up which would be fine LOL)

 

There's a pretty good chance both wildcards will come from the AL East.

 

Long way to go though as your previous post shows well!

[Bobthe4th]

The only thing that has kept the O's heads above water are the games they played against us.

 

14 - 4 vs the Jays, White Sox, Reds and Pirates - who are all bottom of their divisions (except the Reds who are one loss above the Pirates).

 

17 - 27 against everyone else.

[G-Snarls]

14 - 4 vs the Jays, White Sox, Reds and Pirates - who are all bottom of their divisions (except the Reds who are one loss above the Pirates).

 

17 - 27 against everyone else.

 

Yankees have owned them

[Bobthe4th]

Yankees have owned them

 

It feels that way because of the series that just finished, but they're 5-7 versus the Yankees overall.

[wk680]

There's a pretty good chance both wildcards will come from the AL East.

 

Long way to go though as your previous post shows well!

 

Yeah and the division seems to be up for grabs with Boston the most likely to overhaul New York. But I have been watching the Fangraphs projected season win totals, which are updated daily. And for the first time this season, they now are predicting the Yankees to win the division with 92 W, followed by Boston at 91 w and Jays at 86 W (taking the 2nd WC, beating out the Rays by 3 games).

[G-Snarls]

Yeah and the division seems to be up for grabs with Boston the most likely to overhaul New York. But I have been watching the Fangraphs projected season win totals, which are updated daily. And for the first time this season, they now are predicting the Yankees to win the division with 92 W, followed by Boston at 91 w and Jays at 86 W (taking the 2nd WC, beating out the Rays by 3 games).

 

I'm less convinced that the division is up for grabs than I am that both WC spots will come from this division. Yankees will be hard to catch I think.

[Bobthe4th]

Yeah and the division seems to be up for grabs with Boston the most likely to overhaul New York. But I have been watching the Fangraphs projected season win totals, which are updated daily. And for the first time this season, they now are predicting the Yankees to win the division with 92 W, followed by Boston at 91 w and Jays at 86 W (taking the 2nd WC, beating out the Rays by 3 games).

 

That's interesting. I don't think there is much talent difference between the Yankees, Red Sox and us. Injuries will probably have the biggest effect on the final positions, but our historic bad start means that a wildcard is likely the best we can realistically hope for.

[burlingtonbandit]

That's interesting. I don't think there is much talent difference between the Yankees, Red Sox and us. Injuries will probably have the biggest effect on the final positions, but our historic bad start means that a wildcard is likely the best we can realistically hope for.

 

Yankees lineup is a lot better than ours. Tulo has looked terrible and 2nd base and LF are still big holes. Their rotation is pretty good too especially if Tanaka can figure it out and then you have Betances/Chapman in the 8th/9th.

[G-Snarls]

Yankees lineup is a lot better than ours. Tulo has looked terrible and 2nd base and LF are still big holes. Their rotation is pretty good too especially if Tanaka can figure it out and then you have Betances/Chapman in the 8th/9th.

 

Pineda and Sabbathia both having awfully good years. May or may not keep it up.

 

But I still think the Yankees are the best team in the division. And they are the team most likely to add a SP at the deadline. Cashman is shrewd AF.

 

We need our rotation at full strength to have a chance to compete IYAM. Fingers crossed that Happ and Sanchez are OK.

[HERPDERP]

Chris Davis is going on the DL

 

Looks like the strike out record will be safe this year.

[glory]

I think the 2nd WC is probably the best the Jays can do at this rate. Their April pretty much nuked any chance they had at the division, and I don't think they are good enough to overtake the Yankees and Red Sox. The key is whether they can overtake and stay ahead of Baltimore, Seattle, Texas, etc. They should be able to, but the Orioles refuse to play to their talent level, and who knows which teams overachieve the rest of the way.

[Sammy225]

Chris Davis is going on the DL

 

Looks like the strike out record will be safe this year.

 

The Hangout is in bloody shambles right now. Its hard to look at.

[HERPDERP]

cool draft stories

 

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/06/13/235229798/weirdest-stories-in-mlb-draft-history/

[G-Snarls]

Chris Davis is going on the DL

 

Looks like the strike out record will be safe this year.

 

0.7 WAR so far this year

 

His absence doesnt move the needle much unless his replacement is AWFULLY bad

 

Maybe psychologically though. Especially when they're struggling so badly already.

[Brownie19]

The Hangout is in bloody shambles right now. Its hard to look at.

 

And by that you mean it's f***ing amazing to watch them wallow in their own self pity?

[Brownie19]

0.7 WAR so far this year

 

His absence doesnt move the needle much unless his replacement is AWFULLY bad

 

Maybe psychologically though. Especially when they're struggling so badly already.

 

It appears the ADHD medicine wasn't what he was missing...

 

What an interesting player. 2 MASSIVE seasons surrounded by 4 very pedestrian ones.

[G-Snarls]

It appears the ADHD medicine wasn't what he was missing...

 

What an interesting player. 2 MASSIVE seasons surrounded by 4 very pedestrian ones.

 

2017 Contract Status: Signed thru 2022, 7 yrs/$161M

 

 

LOL

[G-Snarls]

Is there ANY way they can afford to keep Machado?

[Bobthe4th]

Yankees lineup is a lot better than ours. Tulo has looked terrible and 2nd base and LF are still big holes. Their rotation is pretty good too especially if Tanaka can figure it out and then you have Betances/Chapman in the 8th/9th.

 

While the Yankees have obviously been better than us so far this season, I respectfully disagree that their lineup is "a lot better" than ours talent wise. They've had quite a few players doing better than expected, we've have quite a few either doing worse or being injured.

 

Our rotation is better than theirs, and they've prob got a slight edge on relievers. Overall I don't think that there's a big gap between us.

[jaysblue]

2017 Contract Status: Signed thru 2022, 7 yrs/$161M

 

 

LOL

 

All power sluggers with high strikeout totals like Chris Davis never age well and are never the greatest at being consistent from season to season. So many examples like Jay Bruce, Trumbo, Mark Reynolds, Chris Carter etc. Only guy I could think of who was consistent during his prime was Adam Dunn, though he just fell off a cliff after the age of 30.

[jaysblue]

Is there ANY way they can afford to keep Machado?

 

Machado will sign with either the Yankees or the Mets.

[Brownie19]

All power sluggers with high strikeout totals like Chris Davis never age well and are never the greatest at being consistent from season to season. So many examples like Jay Bruce, Trumbo, Mark Reynolds, Chris Carter etc. Only guy I could think of who was consistent during his prime was Adam Dunn, though he just fell off a cliff after the age of 30.

 

And none of those guys sniffed the 168 wRC+, 7 WAR season that Davis put up. You should have gone with Ryan Howard. At least he put up a 162 wRC+, 5.9 WAR season once.

[Bobthe4th]

All power sluggers with high strikeout totals like Chris Davis never age well and are never the greatest at being consistent from season to season. So many examples like Jay Bruce, Trumbo, Mark Reynolds, Chris Carter etc. Only guy I could think of who was consistent during his prime was Adam Dunn, though he just fell off a cliff after the age of 30.

 

Tangentially related - Jay Bruce is actually doing OK this season - currently with the highest wRC+ of his career and a WAR of 1.5 which is already his best for 4 years.

 

Trying to sign Bruce and the contract for Smoak are probably the 2 most criticised decisions this FO has made, but we really should just trust them from this point on!

[jaysblue]

And none of those guys sniffed the 168 wRC+, 7 WAR season that Davis put up. You should have gone with Ryan Howard. At least he put up a 162 wRC+, 5.9 WAR season once.

 

Was just shooting names off the top of my head. And to think Chris Davis was going to be a 7 WAR player again would have been crazy. Howard is a good example, completely forgot about him.

[G-Snarls]

All power sluggers with high strikeout totals like Chris Davis never age well and are never the greatest at being consistent from season to season. So many examples like Jay Bruce, Trumbo, Mark Reynolds, Chris Carter etc. Only guy I could think of who was consistent during his prime was Adam Dunn, though he just fell off a cliff after the age of 30.

 

Also, most front offices now realize that high strikeout 40HR guys aren't that valuable

 

Davis got a little lucky with that contract and signed at the right time

 

This past off season he wouldn't​ have gotten anywhere near 7 years 161M from any team

 

Not with Carter and Bautista and Edwin all settling like they did

Edited June 13, 2017 by G-Snarls