The Jose Bautista Thread

[Angrioter]

Jose for 2 years over Fowler long term

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

We only get a pick if he signs before the draft, which is looking more and more unlikely.

 

I know I said he would wait it out till then and got roasted on here for saying that just a couple days ago!

[Spanky99]

I know I said he would wait it out till then and got roasted on here for saying that just a couple days ago!

 

You didn't get roasted... I said it wouldn't happen, I think I was the only one who responded, I could be wrong.

[The Cats Ass]

We only get a pick if he signs before the draft, which is looking more and more unlikely.

 

You know it's not the Rule 5 draft... Right?

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Jose for 2 years over Fowler long term

 

Batz and Pagen on short term deals,jettison Smoak,Upton and Zeke and bring up Pompey!

 

Have a open competition for the Kids in spring training for the open spots at catcher, and Pompeys fourth outfielder spot!

 

Have also a open competition for the Kids at the 5th starter spot ... And with Lirano in the pen we have a lefty and long relief and what only one open spot?

 

Could work

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

You didn't get roasted... I said it wouldn't happen, I think I was the only one who responded, I could be wrong.

 

Sorry spank I wasn't singling ya out!

 

I like you, maybe it was all the Hate from days gone by of late!!! Lol

[Spanky99]

You know it's not the Rule 5 draft... Right?

 

He's talking about waiting until after the draft, the rule 4 draft in June... pick compensation dissolves after that.

[FrozenRopes]

lol

 

Epic

[metafour]

Bautista x2 > overrated Fowler

 

What exactly makes Fowler overrated? He walks, makes solid contact, average power, plus base-runner. The fact that he is a player driven by walk-rate instead of BABIP strongly suggests that he is likely to age well as a hitter (unlike someone like Carl Crawford who never walked and therefore became useless once the legs wore out). Fowler left Coors Field and actually became a better hitter.

[The Cats Ass]

He's talking about waiting until after the draft, the rule 4 draft in June... pick compensation dissolves after that.

 

Ya, I know which draft he meant. I was giving an idiotic response to an idiotic idea.

[Spanky99]

Ya, I know which draft he meant. I was giving an idiotic response to an idiotic idea.

 

Gotcha... lol.

[ILikeSoccerandBaseball09]

Ben Nicholson-Smith on Twitter "#BlueJays, Bautista met. That's something. For what it's worth, though, didn't get sense sides were close."

[Pendleton]

I'd be uncomfortable with three guaranteed years. Maybe year two could be a player option and the third year a club option or buyout?

 

If Bautista has a rebound season he could decline the option and chase a bigger multi year deal without a pick attached to him next winter.

 

If he ends up struggling through a couple injury prone seasons, we effectively end up paying back some of the money he missed out on by being on such a team friendly deal for the past few years - and one of our all time greats gets to retire as a Blue Jay.

[Spoonovic]

Is there a chance to sign both Fowler and Bautista?

 

OF: Fowler

OF: Pillar

OF: Pearce/potential platoon

1B: Bautista

2B: Travis

SS: Tulo

3B: Donaldson

C: Martin

DH: Morales

 

Bench:

Upton

Backup Catcher

Smoak (yuck)

Barney

[THANOS]

Is there a chance to sign both Fowler and Bautista?

 

OF: Fowler

OF: Pillar

OF: Pearce/potential platoon

1B: Bautista

2B: Travis

SS: Tulo

3B: Donaldson

C: Martin

DH: Morales

 

Bench:

Upton

Backup Catcher

Smoak (yuck)

Barney

 

There's a chance, but Bautista would have to lower his standards.

 

Maybe, something like this could make it possible?

 

Bautista - 2/35 (17.5 AAV)

Fowler - 4/64 (16 AAV)

 

Even then, I'm not sure it happens. Where is the payroll at right now? I'd imagine this would put them over 160M.

[burlingtonbandit]

There's a chance, but Bautista would have to lower his standards.

 

Maybe, something like this could make it possible?

 

Bautista - 2/35 (17.5 AAV)

Fowler - 4/64 (16 AAV)

 

Even then, I'm not sure it happens. Where is the payroll at right now? I'd imagine this would put them over 160M.

 

I think I read 133. You would have to backload them say give Fowler 12 and JB 14 next year. Even then you leave no money for the pen or a backup catcher unless you can unload Smoak.

[Driveof85]

Most Orioles fans would probably decide they like him just fine after a half season with a 380 OBP and 20 bombs

 

True lol

[burlingtonbandit]

I wouldn't mind then signing Saunders back to platoon with Upton/ get some starts at 1st base. If it only costs $10M per on a 2 year deal there is good value in that. He had such a good first half that you have to believe the talent is still there. No one's numbers drop that much unless there is an injury.

[THANOS]

I think I read 133. You would have to backload them say give Fowler 12 and JB 14 next year. Even then you leave no money for the pen or a backup catcher unless you can unload Smoak.

 

I guess you could always promote AJ Jimenez, and hope that Chris Smith and Loop figure it out? Maybe buying low on Tyson Ross to be in the BP, though not really sure about the cost there or if he'd accept that.

[Orgfiller]

I guess you could always promote AJ Jimenez, and hope that Seth Smith and Loop figure it out? Maybe buying low on Tyson Ross to be in the BP, though not really sure about the cost there or if he'd accept that.

Pretty sure you didn't mean Seth Smith.

[Driveof85]

The disrespect for Jose is pretty hilarious. The guy is one year removed from a 40HR, .250/.377/.536 season. Walk rates are still through the roof.

 

He had some injuries last year and still put up a very, very good offensive year. Shatkins will clearly bring him back as a primary DH if an offer is made.

 

Yes, bringing back one of the greatest players in franchise history on a short-term deal when he is still very capable of putting up excellent numbers is absolutely nauseating. The hive is at it again.

 

Preach on brother! JB is an icon who will have a great 2017, 30/90 at least

[THANOS]

Pretty sure you didn't mean Seth Smith.

 

You're right. I meant Chris Smith lol.

[Terminator]

I wouldn't mind then signing Saunders back to platoon with Upton/ get some starts at 1st base. If it only costs $10M per on a 2 year deal there is good value in that. He had such a good first half that you have to believe the talent is still there. No one's numbers drop that much unless there is an injury.

 

I would sign Saunders to that deal.

[burlingtonbandit]

I wonder if Rogers gives them an extra 5M to spend if they sign Bautista back. Surely there is some additional value from the name that the Blue Jays and Rogers would benefit by.

[Jonn]

I don't understand why anyone would give Saunders a multi year deal. His knee could go at anytime. Unless the second year was non guaranteed no thanks.

[Boxcar]

lol

 

LOL that is f***ing perfect

[burlingtonbandit]

I don't understand why anyone would give Saunders a multi year deal. His knee could go at anytime. Unless the second year was non guaranteed no thanks.

 

Because he's still good? Lot of guys have torn their meniscus's, doesn't mean their knee is going to fall off.

[Boxcar]

The disrespect for Jose is pretty hilarious. The guy is one year removed from a 40HR, .250/.377/.536 season. Walk rates are still through the roof.

 

He had some injuries last year and still put up a very, very good offensive year. Shatkins will clearly bring him back as a primary DH if an offer is made.

 

Yes, bringing back one of the greatest players in franchise history on a short-term deal when he is still very capable of putting up excellent numbers is absolutely nauseating. The hive is at it again.

 

Looks like someone doesn't know how age based decline works.

[Stangstag]

Because he's still good? Lot of guys have torn their meniscus's, doesn't mean their knee is going to fall off.

 

Saunders had his removed

[Stangstag]

I don't understand why anyone would give Saunders a multi year deal. His knee could go at anytime. Unless the second year was non guaranteed no thanks.

 

Agree 100%