Offseason Roster Thread 2016-17

[Abomination]

Prediction: TB now signs Coghlan to split time with Beckham at 2nd, and play some in the outfield. He probably puts up 2 WAR.

 

I really want Coghlan to come here though. Plus in the outfield, can't hit lefties but we have Upton for that, and would provide valuable Travis protection at 2B.

[Spanky99]

I want to know how any of you nerds even know who this apparently s***** AAA backup catcher is.

 

Since Pendleton brought him up a week or so ago.

[Krylian]

Wilner literally knows nothing.

 

[Krylian]

Read up on Shapiro's view on players options.

 

Holland's not signing a mutual option, especially when he likely has a bunch of suitors.

 

A mutual option basically the same as an opt out. If he has a great year he says, c'ya.

[Governator]

A mutual option basically the same as an opt out. If he has a great year he says, c'ya.

 

An opt out is only half of a mutual option...

[Ray]

 

Would've been nice for $1 million.

[P2F]

What a steal.

[Orgfiller]

What a steal.

 

Meh, Shawn Tolleson kind of sucks.

[jaysblue]

Meh, Shawn Tolleson kind of sucks.

 

Watch him save 30-40 games with them if Colome gets traded or injured.

[GD]

Meh, Shawn Tolleson kind of sucks.

 

wat

[Orgfiller]

wat

He's literally only had one season above replacement level. He signed for just barely above league min, so that should probably say enough about how teams value him. Okay K rates, not much else going on.

[Krylian]

An opt out is only half of a mutual option...

 

Yes. And it's the only half Holland cares about.

[Spanky99]

Meh, Shawn Tolleson kind of sucks.

 

At 1 million, he'd be great?

[glory]

Yes. And it's the only half Holland cares about.

 

Or he can sign with one of many teams that will probably give him the player option he wants and have security in case he sucks. A mutual option is not security in case of failure because the team will decline it in that scenario.

[wk680]

Or he can sign with one of many teams that will probably give him the player option he wants and have security in case he sucks. A mutual option is not security in case of failure because the team will decline it in that scenario.

 

Regardless of the number of years on the contract, he is unlike to get more than $10M guaranteed (even that is probably stretching it).

[Orgfiller]

At 1 million, he'd be great?

 

Again, he's basically a replacement level reliever. Cool if he replicates his 2015 season, which I would say the odds are against that, but more or less an inconsequential signing otherwise. I have no problem with paying a replacement level pitcher a hair over league min as the Rays did here, but nothing to write home about imo.

[Spanky99]

Again, he's basically a replacement level reliever. Cool if he replicates his 2015 season, which I would say the odds are against that, but more or less an inconsequential signing otherwise. I have no problem with paying a replacement level pitcher a hair over league min as the Rays did here, but nothing to write home about imo.

 

Okie Dokie... his HR/9 and BABIP was extremely bloated last season with injury... and his RA9/WPA and RE24 seems on point the 2 years prior, I think he's great value for 1 million. Anyhow he's a f***ing reliever and volatile... so I'll agree to disagree.

[GD]

He's literally only had one season above replacement level. He signed for just barely above league min, so that should probably say enough about how teams value him. Okay K rates, not much else going on.

 

Your dumn he's had two straight seasons of above average pitching. Happy birthday dumny!

[KingKat]

Your dumn he's had two straight seasons of above average pitching. Happy birthday dumny!

 

What is this hair splitting? He's had a WAR above 0 exactly once in his career just like Org said.

[BTS]

I traded for Shawn Tolleson before the 2016 season. I hope that POS finds his way out of baseball.

[Spanky99]

I traded for Shawn Tolleson before the 2016 season. I hope that POS finds his way out of baseball.

 

lol

[wamco]

I traded for Shawn Tolleson before the 2016 season. I hope that POS finds his way out of baseball.

 

Wat?

[Krylian]

Or he can sign with one of many teams that will probably give him the player option he wants and have security in case he sucks. A mutual option is not security in case of failure because the team will decline it in that scenario.

 

I'd give him a 1+1 (player option)

[intentional wok]

I'd give him a 1+1 (player option)

 

I think I love the idea of Holland. Even if he comes back at 70% of his former greatness, he's the second best arm in the pen -- possibly even tied with Osuna.

[Dr. Dinger]

I think I love the idea of Holland. Even if he comes back at 70% of his former greatness, he's the second best arm in the pen -- possibly even tied with Osuna.

 

RotoWire News: Holland (elbow) was sitting at 88-91 mph with his fastball during a showcase Monday, FanGraphs' Eric Longenhagen reports. (11/7/2016)

 

Not a good sign.

[intentional wok]

:(

 

EDIT: Shi with a rare break:

 

[glory]

Jays are close to signing Salty.

 

White Navarro.

 

Shi Davidi ‏@ShiDavidi

#BlueJays and C Jarrod Saltalamacchia nearing an agreement, per source:

[King]

Fml

[Dr. Dinger]

Ehhh, fine with him as a backup catcher, as long as he buzzes his head.

[glory]

The only good thing about Salty is that Gibbons wont DH him and bat him clean up. Other than that, he's no different than Navarro. Hope it's cheap.