Now that everyone is back what is your ideal lineup?

[The Cats Ass]

CF - Pillar

SS - Tulo

3B - Donaldson

1B - Edwin

DH - Bautista

C - Martin

LF - Saunders

2B - Travis

RF - Upton

[Jonn]

CF - Pillar

SS - Tulo

3B - Donaldson

1B - Edwin

DH - Bautista

C - Martin

LF - Saunders

2B - Travis

RF - Upton

 

Mods

[Terminator]

Upton has been a bit better at the plate recently and had 2 homers last weekend vs RHP in Cleveland. IMO the marginal upgrade at the plate Smoak brings is negated by the fact Upton has speed and he has none. Putting Smoak DH also means putting both Saunders and Bautista in the outfield.

 

2B Travis

RF Bautista

3B Donaldson

1B EE

C Martin

SS Tulo

DH Saunders

LF Upton

CF Pillar

 

Upton over Saunders or Bautista in the lineup is worth something like 1 to 1.5 WAR. That's huge, so it's probably best to just keep him in there. Hear me out, but Zeke vs. righties over Upton might make some sense. Next week when we have September callups Pompey would be even better.

Edited August 25, 2016 by Terminator

[L54]

That's Martin's stats...

 

I was using it as a recent example of how players can fluctuate from month to month.

[Spanky99]

I was using it as a recent example of how players can fluctuate from month to month.

 

It was pretty clear, brosoff!

[GD]

Bautista

Donaldson

Tulowitzki

Encarnacion

Martin

Saunders

Travis

Pillar

Upton

[Seanie]

vs LHP and weak RHP

 

2B Travis

3B Donaldson

RF Bautista

1B Edwin

SS Tulo

C Martin

DH Saunders

LF Upton

CF Pillar

 

 

vs RHP

 

2B Travis

3B Donaldson

RF Bautista

1B Edwin

SS Tulo

C Martin

LF Saunders

DH Smoak

CF Pillar

 

 

haters gonna hate

 

This

[BlueRocky]

Travis

Donaldson

Bautista

Edwin

Tulo

Martin

Saunders

Upton

Pillar

 

Really any lineup without Goins, Smoak or Carrera would be lovely

 

That lineup looks beautiful.

[Jimcanuck]

Travis

Donaldson

Bautista

Edwin

Tulo

Martin

Saunders

Upton

Pillar

 

Really any lineup without Goins, Smoak or Carrera would be lovely

 

Agree with this except against lefties would put Barney in LF over Saunders, at least until Saunders breaks out of his slump.

[est1975]

Hi guys

Long time listener, first time caller...

 

Question ... Upton is one of the fastest guys in the AL ... and over the last 12-13 games his BA has gone way up, and he's made an impact.

 

I haven't looked up his On Base during that stretch, but would anyone entertain the ideal of Upton at the top of the line up?

 

Upton

Travis

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Bautista

Saunders

Martin

Tulo

Pillar

 

Or something to that effect?

[Terminator]

Hi guys

Long time listener, first time caller...

 

Question ... Upton is one of the fastest guys in the AL ... and over the last 12-13 games his BA has gone way up, and he's made an impact.

 

I haven't looked up his On Base during that stretch, but would anyone entertain the ideal of Upton at the top of the line up?

 

Upton

Travis

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Bautista

Saunders

Martin

Tulo

Pillar

 

Or something to that effect?

 

Get ready

[G-Snarls]

Hi guys

Long time listener, first time caller...

 

Question ... Upton is one of the fastest guys in the AL ... and over the last 12-13 games his BA has gone way up, and he's made an impact.

 

I haven't looked up his On Base during that stretch, but would anyone entertain the ideal of Upton at the top of the line up?

 

Upton

Travis

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Bautista

Saunders

Martin

Tulo

Pillar

 

Or something to that effect?

 

Speed doesn't make up for his poor OBP skills and high strikeout rate. He should hit 8th or 9th when he playss and he should not be playing every day. This guarantees he gets fewer at bats than our elite hitters who should all be at the top of the lineup.

 

... If your post was serious

[KingKat]

Hi guys

Long time listener, first time caller...

 

Question ... Upton is one of the fastest guys in the AL ... and over the last 12-13 games his BA has gone way up, and he's made an impact.

 

I haven't looked up his On Base during that stretch, but would anyone entertain the ideal of Upton at the top of the line up?

 

Upton

Travis

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Bautista

Saunders

Martin

Tulo

Pillar

 

Or something to that effect?

 

Over the last 14 days, his OBP is .381. That's high enough to make him a good leadoff hitter but he won't sustain that long term. He's at .322 for his career (.352 against LHP and .310 against RHP).

[G-Snarls]

vs LHP and weak RHP

 

2B Travis

3B Donaldson

RF Bautista

1B Edwin

SS Tulo

C Martin

DH Saunders

LF Upton

CF Pillar

 

 

vs RHP

 

2B Travis

3B Donaldson

RF Bautista

1B Edwin

SS Tulo

C Martin

LF Saunders

DH Smoak

CF Pillar

 

 

haters gonna hate

 

Lineup order looks about as good as you can get if everyone is healthy. Those lineups should score a ton of runs.

[est1975]

Over the last 14 days, his OBP is .381. That's high enough to make him a good leadoff hitter but he won't sustain that long term. He's at .322 for his career (.352 against LHP and .310 against RHP).

 

 

 

That's fair ... and you can't expect a 12 year vet to suddenly improve on career averages that significantly.

I was just curious if anyone would consider - even just as a spark right now while he's hot ...

 

I know a lot of people love the idea of Travis as a leadoff man, but his numbers don't really suggest that's his best spot either..

[G-Snarls]

That lineup looks beautiful.

 

That SHOULD be a top 3 lineup in baseball.

[BallsDeep]

Travis

Donaldson

Bautista

Edwin

Martin

Tulo

Saunders

Upton

Pillar

[Terminator]

That SHOULD be a top 3 lineup in baseball.

 

Well we've scored the 5th most runs of anyone in baseball, one of the teams ahead of us is the Rockies too.

 

We are second in the AL behind the Red Sox. The offense isn't as good as last year but it's still been pretty darn good.

[Brownie19]

Over the last 14 days, his OBP is .381. That's high enough to make him a good leadoff hitter but he won't sustain that long term. He's at .322 for his career (.352 against LHP and .310 against RHP).

 

You could certainly look at him in the leadoff spot vs. LHP when he's on a heater...

[KingKat]

You could certainly look at him in the leadoff spot vs. LHP when he's on a heater...

 

Yeah depending on who is in the lineup that day, I could see that making sense. I mean Pillar was the every leadoff hitter for a bit and so was Zeke. Barney's even started there and possibly some others I'm forgetting. There's definitely been some poorer choices made than Upton leading off against a LHP.

[wamco]

I just want bj to go nuts in post season with hr like he did 4 the Rays.

[Olerud363]

Bautista

Donaldson

Tulowitzki

Encarnacion

Martin

Saunders

Travis

Pillar

Upton

 

 

I think you are the first guy to lead off Bautista... Why Tulo behind EE... looks like you are basically going best hitter to worse based on career stats. Do you think Tulo is still a better hitter than EE??

 

Or is it like super optimized and it actually makes sense to put the better hitter fourth because he will either come up with a runner on, or lead off the next inning.

[Terminator]

Or is it like super optimized and it actually makes sense to put the better hitter fourth because he will either come up with a runner on, or lead off the next inning.

 

Yeah exactly. You don't want your 1st, 2nd or 3rd best hitter to bat 3rd because the most likely scenario is that they come up with no one on and two outs.

 

If they lead off the next inning well that's not so bad, having a good hitter lead off isn't going to hurt the team at all.

[o2cui2i]

if everyone stays healthy the fine tweaking isn't going to make that big of a difference.

 

right now Martin hits before Tulo just based on the fact that he's on a burner. let him hit cleanup until he cools down.

[Cyborg]

Bautista

Donaldson

Martin

Edwin

Tulo

Travis

Saunders

Smoak

Pillar

[Jimcanuck]

Bautista

Donaldson

Martin

Edwin

Tulo

Travis

Saunders

Smoak

Pillar

 

Smoak at 1B or DH is a downgrade over Upton in the OF and Bats at DH?