Is Josh Reddick a realistic free agent signing next season?

[Brownie19]

I think I remember reading how if you were to take clutch stats and add it to a player's value Reddick's WAR decreased by like 6 wins or something ridiculous. Obviously there's noise in clutch stats but its interesting how remarkable unclutch he has been in his career.

 

Found the article http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/josh-reddick-has-been-the-anti-willie-bloomquist/

 

Dead last clutch score in the last 40 years.

 

Likely because he's a zero vs. LHP.

[reedjohnsonfan]

100M might be pushing it, but he's a better player than guys like Ian Kennedy and Wei-yin Chen and the market is barren this offseason. If he repeats his 2015 I think he gets 75+M

 

lol there's no chance he gets 100 m even with a really great season

[BTS]

lol there's no chance he gets 100 m even with a really great season

 

That's silly. A "really great" season for him would be what, like 4-5 wins? If he does that, there's absolutely a chance he gets 100M entering his age-30 season. There's nothing available this year and we live in a world where Samardzija got 90, Chen got 80 and Kennedy got 70.

[reedjohnsonfan]

That's silly. A "really great" season for him would be what, like 4-5 wins? If he does that, there's absolutely a chance he gets 100M entering his age-30 season. There's nothing available this year and we live in a world where Samardzija got 90, Chen got 80 and Kennedy got 70.

 

Naw, I think you're struggling to evaluate how players are getting paid and are comparing apples and oranges. Samardzija has the best pedigree out of all of those pitchers and was a lot more highly sought after than Reddick is going to be. I'm not here to argue I just think it's hilarious how you suggested Reddick could get 100 million and then you backtracked and admitted that you might be stretching the truth. Just admit you were exaggerating and we move forward!

[BTS]

Naw, I think you're struggling to evaluate how players are getting paid and are comparing apples and oranges. Samardzija has the best pedigree out of all of those pitchers and was a lot more highly sought after than Reddick is going to be. I'm not here to argue I just think it's hilarious how you suggested Reddick could get 100 million and then you backtracked and admitted that you might be stretching the truth. Just admit you were exaggerating and we move forward!

 

I already admitted that I was probably high, but you've exaggerated in the opposite direction.

[Brownie19]

That's silly. A "really great" season for him would be what, like 4-5 wins? If he does that, there's absolutely a chance he gets 100M entering his age-30 season. There's nothing available this year and we live in a world where Samardzija got 90, Chen got 80 and Kennedy got 70.

 

I think its established that pitchers are getting paid these days. That has nothing to do with Reddick.

 

Btw, I wish we signed Shark

[BTS]

I think its established that pitchers are getting paid these days. That has nothing to do with Reddick.

 

Btw, I wish we signed Shark

 

I don't think we should assume that pitchers make more than equally talented hitters going forward because it worked out that way one offseason. If Reddick puts up a 4-win season he's going to get paid.

[jays_fever]

Replacing Bautista with a 90-100 million dollar contract for Reddick would be pretty gross

[Stangstag]

Market for Reddick could be limited somewhat with Bautista and possibly Cespedes being free agents.

[Stangstag]

Replacing Bautista with a 90-100 million dollar contract for Reddick would be pretty gross

 

Reddick probably provides around the same WAR as Bautista over the next few years

[reedjohnsonfan]

Reddick probably provides around the same WAR as Bautista over the next few years

 

based on what?

[Brownie19]

based on what?

 

Decline due to age

[reedjohnsonfan]

so you guys just made up some numbers based on age and think Bautista provides the same value as Reddick over the next few years? I respectfully disagree and think that's a horrible idea...

[JaysRap]

I actually am an advocate to get Reddick. I do believe Bautista will be gone and Reddick won't provide what Bautista will, but he'll be cheaper, younger bat. Hitting lefty doesn't hurt either in a right dominate lineup, and I think he'll take to our fanbase and visa versa. Oh, and having his buddy Donaldson here doesn't hurt either.

[Brownie19]

I actually am an advocate to get Reddick. I do believe Bautista will be gone and Reddick won't provide what Bautista will, but he'll be cheaper, younger bat. Hitting lefty doesn't hurt either in a right dominate lineup, and I think he'll take to our fanbase and visa versa. Oh, and having his buddy Donaldson here doesn't hurt either.

 

Yeah I don't think he's a bad fit either, unless he wants/can get $20M+ a year...then I'll pass. 4 years $50M - sign him up.

Edited May 9, 2016 by Brownie19

[jdmo]

and donaldson.

[Maahfaace]

Reddick is on absolute fire his last 4 games, 12 for 17

[Statman]

Shapiro: I can't wait until free agency Billy.

Beane: For what?

Shapiro: Reddick

Beane: Huh?

Shapiro: I'll give you Dalton Pompey and Drew Hutchison

Beane: ____________________ (fill in the blank)

 

BTW I would LOVE Reddick as a Jay.

[Brownie19]

Shapiro: I can't wait until free agency Billy.

Beane: For what?

Shapiro: Reddick

Beane: Huh?

Shapiro: I'll give you Dalton Pompey and Drew Hutchison

Beane: ____________________ (fill in the blank)

 

BTW I would LOVE Reddick as a Jay.

 

For a platoon player who's a FA at the end of the year? No thanks.

[Statman]

For a platoon player who's a FA at the end of the year? No thanks.

 

I would rather have Reddick going forward than Bautista quite honestly.

[Brownie19]

I would rather have Reddick going forward than Bautista quite honestly.

 

That's nice. What happens if he doesn't want to play here?

 

BTW - Reddick's not that strong defensively himself....you're going to stick him in the OF right now and move Jose or Saunders to DH and EE to 1st with Smoak on the bench?

[gruber92]

With the realistic event that Bautista will be gone, combined with our new regime, Reddick should be a strong candidate. The fact that he'll come cheaper, a LHB, his numbers should be better playing half his games at the RC, plus he just seems to be a Shapiro type guy. I think he'd be a nice fit here if Shapiro can find a way to land him.

[Dick_Pole]

Shapiro: I can't wait until free agency Billy.

Beane: For what?

Shapiro: Reddick

Beane: Huh?

Shapiro: I'll give you Dalton Pompey and Drew Hutchison

Beane: ____________________ (fill in the blank)

 

BTW I would LOVE Reddick as a Jay.

 

Beane: I'll counter with something much less than that, because that's way too much to pay for a partial season of Reddick,

[Statman]

With the realistic event that Bautista will be gone, combined with our new regime, Reddick should be a strong candidate. The fact that he'll come cheaper, a LHB, his numbers should be better playing half his games at the RC, plus he just seems to be a Shapiro type guy. I think he'd be a nice fit here if Shapiro can find a way to land him.

 

Josh Donaldsons relationship with Josh Reddick certainly should help convincing Reddick how great a city Toronto is to play in. They loved playing together with the A's.

[Statman]

Beane: I'll counter with something much less than that, because that's way too much to pay for a partial season of Reddick,

 

It would all be about locking him up past 2016 as that would be one of the the stipulations of the trade is that a deal is worked out prior. (like the dickhead trade)

[Dick_Pole]

It would all be about locking him up past 2016 as that would be one of the the stipulations of the trade is that a deal is worked out prior. (like the dickhead trade)

 

Ok, under this scenario you are giving up two decent young players with years of control in exchange for locking up Bautista's replacement during the middle of 2016 and before you've determined that there is no chance Bautista is re-signing. I disagree with this course of action. You're right, it is like the Dickey situation and everyone agrees that was stupid. But at least at the time AA was desperately trying to fill SP holes. There's no apparent need for Reddick on this 2016 squad as long as all three OF's remain healthy and Smoak holds his own. Reddick isn't that much of an elite player that you need to go to such desperate measures to get a leg up on the other 29 teams in order to sign him for 2017 and beyond.

[Brownie19]

Listen - I don't hate Reddick at all, but am I the only one who doesn't want to pay this guy $15M a year (+/-) when he's an absolute ZERO vs. LHP and thus has to be pinch hit for late in every close game? It's almost forces you to have a right handed lefty masher as your 4th OFer.

 

wRC+ of 56 vs. LHP in 2014, wRC+ of 83 vs. LHP in 2015 and a wRC+ of 4 this year so far. There is some list calling him the least clutch player in baseball....I don't necessarily buy into clutch hitting, but I think the fact he gets LOOGY'd to death late in close games is an easy explanation why he's at the top of that list.

[Stangstag]

That's nice. What happens if he doesn't want to play here?

 

BTW - Reddick's not that strong defensively himself....you're going to stick him in the OF right now and move Jose or Saunders to DH and EE to 1st with Smoak on the bench?

 

All of those players are likely gone next year

[Psi]

Listen - I don't hate Reddick at all, but am I the only one who doesn't want to pay this guy $15M a year (+/-) when he's an absolute ZERO vs. LHP and thus has to be pinch hit for late in every close game? It's almost forces you to have a right handed lefty masher as your 4th OFer.

 

wRC+ of 56 vs. LHP in 2014, wRC+ of 83 vs. LHP in 2015 and a wRC+ of 4 this year so far. There is some list calling him the least clutch player in baseball....I don't necessarily buy into clutch hitting, but I think the fact he gets LOOGY'd to death late in close games is an easy explanation why he's at the top of that list.

 

Zero? He's better than Smoak and Saunders vs L. I would even argue he's better than the results with a .255 BABIP vs L and .288 BABIP vs R.

[Brownie19]

All of those players are likely gone next year

 

He's talking about trading for him right now....hence my comment.