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Rick Westhead: Jose Bautista seeks 5 years $150M

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Spanky99 GOAT

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Ya. At first I saw this as all business and didn't mind his comments. I'm a big fan of his. But they are starting to grate on me for the timing and some of the other reasons mentioned. I like him calling out Rogers in a way, but I want this team to win and the focus on that. As far as him giving the Jays a hometown discount that's only in hindsight. He got a big long term deal after one monster year. There was risk on both sides.

 

Meh, who cares. When they say playball on the 3rd of April, they all play for each other.

BigCecil Vancouver Canadians

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Meh, who cares. When they say playball on the 3rd of April, they all play for each other.

 

kumbaya. Hope Edwin doesn't join in the chorus. April 3rd can't come soon enough for me. Coming to see them in TOR against LAD May 6,7,8th.

Spanky99 GOAT

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kumbaya. Hope Edwin doesn't join in the chorus. April 3rd can't come soon enough for me. Coming to see them in TOR against LAD May 6,7,8th.

 

Maybe I'll be good by then to meet up. Surgery on the 16th... supposed to be terrible pain from my last one, that's scary.

gruber92 Buffalo Bisons

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Probably cares more about a longer term (more guaranteed money)

 

Because of the age factor he might get more money overall on a four year term.

 

4/120 vs 5/100-110.

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Huh??

 

He's more likely to get $30M a year on anything under a five year term. If he gets five years, there's no way he gets $150M. I'm not saying he'll get 4/120, but the i think a four year term is his best chance at overall money. For all i know, the Red Sox or the Yankees might go full retard.

gbill2004 FCL Blue Jays

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He's more likely to get $30M a year on anything under a five year term. If he gets five years, there's no way he gets $150M. I'm not saying he'll get 4/120, but the i think a four year term is his best chance at overall money. For all i know, the Red Sox or the Yankees might go full retard.

 

Okay cuz your numbers made no sense.

L54 Vancouver Canadians

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Anyone else love the shirt Atkins was wearing today? Better style than Alex that's for sure.
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The team would surely take an extra year if the overall contract costs less. That makes zero sense Gruber.

 

Please don't imply that you're surprised. I know you don't have emotions but I'm letting you know that you were doing it.

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Anyone else love the shirt Atkins was wearing today? Better style than Alex that's for sure.

 

I find he looks very stylish while also looking very nerdy, giving him a rare kind of geek chic.

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Anyone else love the shirt Atkins was wearing today? Better style than Alex that's for sure.
Dressing like a pimp doesn't make up for a complete lack of personality. Believe me, I know first hand.
gruber92 Buffalo Bisons

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The team would surely take an extra year if the overall contract costs less. That makes zero sense Gruber.

Not if they feel he'll be basically a 41 year old crippled DH that will be performing well below the norm and the difference in overall money is roughly 10M. It's not totally crazy to think management would rather pay a bit more for a productive player than be handcuffed financially in the fourth / fifth year where that $20-25M can be utilized a lot better in 2020-1.

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I find he looks very stylish while also looking very nerdy, giving him a rare kind of geek chic.

 

Feels like you've been waiting forever for an excuse to use that descriptor.

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Not if they feel he'll be basically a 41 year old crippled DH that will be performing well below the norm and the difference in overall money is roughly 10M. It's not totally crazy to think management would rather pay a bit more for a productive player than be handcuffed financially in the fourth / fifth year where that $20-25M can be utilized a lot better in 2020-1.

 

I feel like Gruber probably doesn't work for a bank or any place that needs him to deal with money

G-Snarls Cooperstown

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Not if they feel he'll be basically a 41 year old crippled DH that will be performing well below the norm and the difference in overall money is roughly 10M. It's not totally crazy to think management would rather pay a bit more for a productive player than be handcuffed financially in the fourth / fifth year where that $20-25M can be utilized a lot better in 2020-1.

 

Change your numbers to 4 years 100M (4 x 25) vs 5 years 110M (5 x 22) or something similar and your point will be better made

 

(I understand the point you're TRYING to make - that shorter terms at higher annual average value can make sense. But no one would ever pay more TOTAL money for fewer years. Which is what your numbers show. That's why people are harassing you)

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Would anyone do 5 years 150M if it was restructured to include the 2016 season that's about to start? Would Bautista do that? He gets an increase for 2016 but we avoid paying him at age 41.
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Change your numbers to 4 years 100M (4 x 25) vs 5 years 110M (5 x 22) or something similar and your point will be better made

 

(I understand the point you're TRYING to make - that shorter terms at higher annual average value can make sense. But no one would ever pay more TOTAL money for fewer years. Which is what your numbers show. That's why people are harassing you)

 

It's a dumb way to look at it either way, though. Rogers is still spending the same amount of money.

G-Snarls Cooperstown

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Feels like you've been waiting forever for an excuse to use that descriptor.

 

There's also a store in Kingkat's town by that name :)

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