gbill2004 Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 According to Tim and Sid on Twitter, Aaron Sanchez says he put on 25 pounds of muscle this offseason, so that he can withstand the rigour of being in the rotation this season. I'm sorry, but the only way to do that is with PEDs.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 According to Tim and Sid on Twitter, Aaron Sanchez says he put on 25 pounds of muscle this offseason, so that he can withstand the rigour of being in the rotation this season. I'm sorry, but the only way to do that is with PEDs. 25lbs in 4 months Well I wouldn't claim PED just yet, maybe he looks like he put on 25, but he probably put on 10 With professional trainers, and supplements, that can be accomplished.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 I stand corrected. He himself is claiming he put on 25lbs.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 25lbs in 4 months Well I wouldn't claim PED just yet, maybe he looks like he put on 25, but he probably put on 10 With professional trainers, and supplements, that can be accomplished. Sorry, but 25lbs of MUSCLE in 4 months naturally is impossible.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 I stand corrected. He himself is claiming he put on 25lbs. Yes, that's what I said. And its not just 25lbs, its 25lbs of MUSCLE. If I wanted, I could put on 25lbs in 4 months eating McDonalds, Doritos and Milkshakes. But he said muscle.
Sorrow Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Yes, that's what I said. And its not just 25lbs, its 25lbs of MUSCLE. If I wanted, I could put on 25lbs in 4 months eating McDonalds, Doritos and Milkshakes. But he said muscle. He says he put on 25lbs, not 25lbs of muscle unless he's done another interview.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 He says he put on 25lbs, not 25lbs of muscle unless he's done another interview. Tim and Sid clearly said 25lbs of muscle, but I see they now deleted the Tweet. I haven't yet seen the interview.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Tim and Sid Well there's your problem.
intrigid Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Could be 20 of muscle, 5 of fat. Often when people say "of muscle" it's just a casual way of saying "and most of it is muscle". Even if true, it remains to be seen whether it actually helps in any way. Bulking up is great for power hitters. Not so much for pitchers. Bench press work is known to reduce throwing velocity. Pitchers getting into shape usually involves stretching, mobility and flexibility work, core and lower body strength, balance and repetition, learning new pitches, and sports psychology. If he put that much effort into simply becoming a sexy beast then I have to wonder how much time he spent, you know, actually becoming a better pitcher.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 No it couldnt be 20 pounds of muscle. Even with PEDS that isnt possible. I dont think people realize what even adding 2 pounds of pure muscle really looks like on lean athletes
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 Could be 20 of muscle, 5 of fat. Often when people say "of muscle" it's just a casual way of saying "and most of it is muscle". Even if true, it remains to be seen whether it actually helps in any way. Bulking up is great for power hitters. Not so much for pitchers. Bench press work is known to reduce throwing velocity. Pitchers getting into shape usually involves stretching, mobility and flexibility work, balance and repetition, learning new pitches, and sports psychology. If he put that much effort into simply becoming a sexy beast then I have to wonder how much time he spent, you know, actually becoming a better pitcher. Isn't that really all that matters?
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Why does Sanchy say the stupidest things. First the competitive walks, now this.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Why does Sanchy say the stupidest things. Why do you say the stupidest things
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Why does Sanchy say the stupidest things. First the competitive walks, now this. To be fair - he said he gained 25 lbs, which certainly could be a fact. Competitive walks remains atop the list of stupid things he's said (well above all else really).
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 No it couldnt be 20 pounds of muscle. Even with PEDS that isnt possible. I dont think people realize what even adding 2 pounds of pure muscle really looks like on lean athletes Not to mention at Sanchez' age and with his ectomorphic girly figure, it would be extremely hard to gain much muscle at all, let alone 25 lbs.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Why does Sanchy say the stupidest things. First the competitive walks, now this.
bendera3 Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 He gained 25 pounds so he would no longer be considered a twink and would move up in our boards hottest Jays ranking.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 It's offseason spitballing similar to "the best shape of his life". He probably beefed up but it's not pure muscle nor was it meant to be taken exactly. Point is, Sanchez has added some weight as he expects to compete for a rotation spot. And I think that's the right move, I've got him slotted as our #7 starter right now behind Hutchison and in front of Diamond.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Tim and Sid clearly said 25lbs of muscle, but I see they now deleted the Tweet. I haven't yet seen the interview. whoooa you mean guys in TV don't take the time to ensure their statements are factual? say it ain't so.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 It's offseason spitballing similar to "the best shape of his life". He probably beefed up but it's not pure muscle nor was it meant to be taken exactly. Point is, Sanchez has added some weight as he expects to compete for a rotation spot. And I think that's the right move, I've got him slotted as our #7 starter right now behind Hutchison and in front of Diamond. Sounds about right yeah. I think if we're in a situation in which we're at our #7 guy, you'd hope it's late enough in the season that you could have Osuna pitch as a starter and keep him on a reasonable IP limit. Or Sanch is just #7 if we really don't like the mechanics. Or Sheen Green breaks out idk
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Poor Sanchez kid. Aaron, you suxx as starter
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Well there's your problem. He was on Tim and Sid.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Why do you say the stupidest things Rekt!
Travis_Snider Verified Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 No it couldnt be 20 pounds of muscle. Even with PEDS that isnt possible. I dont think people realize what even adding 2 pounds of pure muscle really looks like on lean athletes 25 pounds of muscle would require a multi compound cycle.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 he's mexican though i can see the 25 lbs gained
King Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Sanchez wants to start. Hope he enjoys AAA next year then. http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/sanchez-hopes-to-join-stroman-in-blue-jays-2016-rotation/ After an off-season spent building strength with teammate Marcus Stroman, Aaron Sanchez says he’s ready for a job in the Toronto Blue Jays’ starting rotation. “My mindset right when we finished last season was to get in shape to start,” Sanchez said at Rogers Centre Tuesday. “That’s what I’ve done my entire minor league career and I want to prove to people here that I can do it.” The Blue Jays are intrigued by what Sanchez could accomplish as a starter, and the addition of Drew Storen means the bullpen could get by without him. Still, team decision makers haven’t given the 23-year-old any final word on their plans just yet. “My goal is to be a starter in the big leagues,” Sanchez said. “If they say that I’m going to the ‘pen I have no control over that. I go to the ‘pen and be the best seventh, eighth or ninth inning guy that this team needs me to be to win ballgames.” Sanchez opened the 2015 season in the Blue Jays’ rotation, posting a 3.55 ERA with 37 walks against 42 strikeouts in 11 starts. A lat strain forced him to the disabled list just as he was hitting his stride, delaying his plans of starting until 2016. The right-hander thrived in 30 appearances out of the bullpen, posting a 2.39 ERA with a 68 per cent ground ball rate and just 16 hits. He followed that up with an ERA of 0.00 in nine playoff appearances — further evidence that he can excel in relief. But Sanchez wants to start, so in late November he joined Stroman at Duke University, where he focused on building strength in twice-daily workouts. “Every day in the gym we’d say ‘nine every five,’ the idea of going nine innings every five days,” Stroman said. “We weren’t doing two-a-days for him to be a reliever. Everything that we did was to go out and throw 200-plus, go out every day and throw seven, eight, nine innings.” Stroman, still less than a year removed from ACL surgery, says he now feels stronger thanks to extensive work with Duke’s medical staff, including Nikki Huffman, who has since been hired by the Blue Jays. He’s hopeful of pitching without a knee brace on opening day 2016 and logging his first 200-inning season. Ideally, Sanchez would be in the rotation with him. “That’s what the preparation was for,” Stroman said. “We know he has the potential to be an unbelievable shutdown reliever, but I think he has more value as a starter. I truly believe that.” If Sanchez starts, the Blue Jays would have to backfill a bullpen that’s already lost right-handers Mark Lowe, LaTroy Hawkins and Liam Hendriks. In theory that could mean opportunity for the likes of Steve Delabar, Bo Schultz and Ryan Tepera. Four spots in the Blue Jays’ rotation are spoken for thanks to Stroman, Marco Estrada, R.A. Dickey and J.A. Happ, but the fifth spot will likely be opened up for competition. Sanchez, Drew Hutchison and Jesse Chavez are candidates to start, and team president Mark Shapiro says the team hopes to add rotation depth. Hutchison posted a 5.57 ERA last year, and Chavez has struggled late in seasons, but that alone doesn’t assure Sanchez of a rotation spot. To stand out from that group he’ll have to answer some of questions: can he start for a full season despite having a career high of 92.1 innings? How much can he improve on the .801 OPS left-handed batters have against him? Does he have enough secondary pitches to turn lineups over three times? Though spring training doesn’t start for another month, Sanchez has already started working on a change-up, a pitch he rarely had to use in relief, but one that would theoretically allow him to neutralize left-handed batters and give hitters different looks late in games. “I know what I can do with number one, so the emphasis for me going in to spring training is working to develop my change-up,” Sanchez said. The progress of that pitch could go a long way toward determining Sanchez’s role, since there’s no questioning the effectiveness of his two-seam fastball. “He’s going to be a star when he gets his secondary pitches going,” manager John Gibbons said last month. It’s that kind of potential that could lead the Blue Jays to stretch Sanchez out this spring. There’s no guarantee that he’ll earn a rotation spot again, but there’s little to lose by stretching out a live-armed 23-year-old and seeing where that off-season work led. “I know wholeheartedly that he wants to be a starter,” Stroman said. “I think he’s going to run with it this spring.”
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Sanchez will be our #5 starter at the beginning of the season.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 What if 20 of the 25 is in his hog.
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