The 2015 Winter Meetings (Dec 7-10)

[Swervin81]

I think the mask is coming off this new regime. No wonder Alex headed for the hills.

The payroll parameters are too constraining even if the revenues increased.

 

How is $140M too constraining. Like, how? That's definitely a top 10 payroll. Especially with a weak ass dollar.

[tpurewal97]

Doesn't look like the Jays will make any significant moves , they seem pretty content with there roster as of now.

 

So far

 

OUT - > Price , Buehrle , Lowe* , Hawkins , Navarro , Hendricks , Pennington ,

 

IN - > Happ , Chavez

[Stangstag]

He would have fit in beautifully with our team and i foolishly thought he was a realistic option before the off-season started.

 

He definitely was a realistic option. We'll see how much he got. But if its 3/45 or less, we should have been in.

[BeastMode]

Doesn't look like the Jays will make any significant moves , they seem pretty content with there roster as of now.

 

So far

 

OUT - > Price , Buehrle , Lowe* , Hawkins , Navarro , Hendricks , Pennington ,

 

 

IN - > Happ , Chavez

Probably just minor league signings if trades don't happen to free up some extra money.

[TilsonBritoFan]

$140 million payroll "too constraining"

 

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5a/5ac3af004e6780c833cae0c9f089f614d636ce52a01128c089e95f0c8f349fb9.jpg

[Ziggyy108]

damnnn. huge loss for the Mariners

[Effit]

No doubt this offseason has been pretty underwhelming so far. Zzzzz

 

Hopefully the 2016 results will be a tad more exciting.

[Krylian]

No doubt this offseason has been pretty underwhelming so far. Zzzzz

 

Hopefully the 2016 results will be a tad more exciting.

 

#Rogers

[saskjayfan]

Iwakuma gone to the Dodgers per Jim Bowden.

 

This is a guy I would have liked, but he was never going to choose the Jays over the Dodgers.

[Captain Adama]

Lol @ this thread.

[glory]

Yep I was on the Kuma bandwagon, but I never expected him to want to come to Toronto.

[saskjayfan]

#Rogers

 

when you had a team that scored almost 900 runs and is set up to be just as good next year, there isn't really much to do. We need to sign a couple bullpen arms. I would love to see Dickey traded as part of a package for an upgrade in the rotation, but that isn't going to happen. It would be nice to see Jose or EE extended. I think that still has an outside shot of happening.

[Followthelight]

Doesn't look like the Jays will make any significant moves , they seem pretty content with there roster as of now.

 

So far

 

OUT - > Price , Buehrle , Lowe* , Hawkins , Navarro , Hendricks , Pennington ,

 

IN - > Happ , Chavez

 

Pretty disappointing, especially considering the lineup is as good as they have had since 93, World Series is a legit possibility with the right moves. So far been underwhelming.

[King]

Heyman

Mets willing to go 4 years on zobrist but there are others at 4. Nats, giants plus mystery team in mix at some level.

 

#MysteryTeam

[Followthelight]

Heyman

Mets willing to go 4 years on zobrist but there are others at 4. Nats, giants plus mystery team in mix at some level.

 

#MysteryTeam

 

Quick, start the "jays in on Zobrist" thread.

[GD]

suicide joke and rape reference in the same post. Language hurts GD...I expect better from our youth.

 

Lying to youth? I'm appalled.

 

kek

 

didn't you quit or something

[BeastMode]

when you had a team that scored almost 900 runs and is set up to be just as good next year, there isn't really much to do. We need to sign a couple bullpen arms. I would love to see Dickey traded as part of a package for an upgrade in the rotation, but that isn't going to happen. It would be nice to see Jose or EE extended. I think that still has an outside shot of happening.

In my opinion, when you have such a crazy elite offense and your pitching is lacking circumstances should be made by ownership to take advantage of this opportunity and really go for it.

Doesn't mean spending $200 million or anything like that , but a decent bump would have been great with regards to accomplishing better moves.

With regards to Bautista and Encarnacion, it's hard to imagine them being here past next year, (especially more so if we struggle) when you look at our payroll in 2017.

[Followthelight]

BeastMode;823759]In my opinion, when you have such a crazy elite offense and your pitching is lacking circumstances should be made by ownership to take advantage of this opportunity and really go for it[/b].

Doesn't mean spending $200 million or anything like that , but a decent bump would have been great with regards to accomplishing better moves.

With regards to Bautista and Encarnacion, it's hard to imagine them being here past next year, (especially more so if we struggle) when you look at our payroll in 2017.

 

Exactly, instead they will most likely waste a championship caliber team because they didn't want to go all the way. Frustrating. Expect Happ and estrada to regress and Stroman to have ups and downs this year,

[saskjayfan]

Exactly, instead they will most likely waste a championship caliber team because they didn't want to go all the way. Frustrating. Expect Happ and estrada to regress and Stroman to have ups and downs this year,

 

I agree on Happ and Estrada, but Stroman is a stud.

[BeastMode]

Yep I was on the Kuma bandwagon, but I never expected him to want to come to Toronto.

 

It's almost always about money. I am sure if we had the budget room to pay him extra, he'd probably play here.

 

But yeah, all money being equal most players will choose their home country to play in.

[CJ-Freeway]

Get the f*** over Price, already. Looking at you Jonn and MontrealKid

 

Neverrrrr

[BTS]

Kuma to the Dodgers. So much better than giving Greinke 206M.

[Stangstag]

In my opinion, when you have such a crazy elite offense and your pitching is lacking circumstances should be made by ownership to take advantage of this opportunity and really go for it.

Doesn't mean spending $200 million or anything like that , but a decent bump would have been great with regards to accomplishing better moves.

With regards to Bautista and Encarnacion, it's hard to imagine them being here past next year, (especially more so if we struggle) when you look at our payroll in 2017.

 

When has "going for it" ever worked out? Name a team that had a crazy offseason and won the WS the following season.

[Stangstag]

Kuma to the Dodgers. So much better than giving Greinke 206M.

 

Nuh-uh, spending 34 million per year on a 32 year old STUD is a way better use of money.

 

Who is Iwakuma anyways?

[BTS]

In my opinion, when you have such a crazy elite offense and your pitching is lacking circumstances should be made by ownership to take advantage of this opportunity and really go for it.

Doesn't mean spending $200 million or anything like that , but a decent bump would have been great with regards to accomplishing better moves.

With regards to Bautista and Encarnacion, it's hard to imagine them being here past next year, (especially more so if we struggle) when you look at our payroll in 2017.

 

Payroll is up almost 100% from 2011 and still people whine. The lesson to Rogers here should be: why have a competitive payroll?

[BeastMode]

Payroll is up almost 100% from 2011 and still people whine. The lesson to Rogers here should be: why have a competitive payroll?

 

Rogers has been a joke since they have owned the team when it comes to payroll until the past few years. They figured out that spending money to make money works out pretty well.

BTW, I never said $140 million wasn't enough to win with, but with our market potential it could easily be higher no question.

[Hipfan]

When has "going for it" ever worked out? Name a team that had a crazy offseason and won the WS the following season.

 

2009 Yankees, off the top of my head.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

You're right, from the Blue Jays perspective he wasn't worth 7/217 million (hence why they didn't offer it)... what are you even complaining about?

 

You're upset that they didnt offer him a contract he would have rejected, that seems smart to me

 

How is that smart?

 

We should bid on any FA the team wants/needs. Period. If that player gets too pricey, we pull out. Who gives a f*** if the FO gets a little egg of their collective face for being turned down. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[GreekFatAss]

Payroll is up almost 100% from 2011 and still people whine. The lesson to Rogers here should be: why have a competitive payroll?

 

The lesson is, make sure you have the management team in place to efficiently use your payroll and I believe they have learned that and is why Shapiro is here now.

[crmr]

How is that smart?

 

We should bid on any FA the team wants/needs. Period. If that player gets too pricey, we pull out. Who gives a f*** if the FO gets a little egg of their collective face for being turned down. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

Smart in the sense that they use their resources for other priorities, I didn't mean anything about possible embarrassment.

 

Taking the time to evaluate a player, come up with some numbers and make offers when you know you won't sign them is a very poor use of time.