Dan Shulman joining Jays broadcast crew next year!

[Brownie19]

It's not just community colleges. I've had several professors between two major universities that fall into this category. It makes the subject so much more of a pain in the ass to learn.

 

Well that's because university professors are there to do research first and teach second. Seems backwards when you have to shell out so much cash in tuition fees doesn't it? I had plenty who seemed annoyed that they had to teach a class. It was very frustrating...

[Slugger]

What the f*** am I reading?

[leaffie]

This is from global news comparing salaries between BC and Alberta:

 

Once a teacher gets 10 years of experience, the differences in salaries appear more drastic between provinces.

 

In Alberta, teachers make $99,300 on average and B.C. teachers make about $81,500 after a decade of experience, which translates to a 60 per cent increase in salary in 10 years."

 

BC went through a lengthy strike, that lasted from May right through until the fall in 2014 while, teachers were telling us that they were doing it for the children. Students missed final exams, report cards, graduation, the start of the following school year and none of their classes were made up. When most workers were not even getting a wage increase, teachers were asking for 13% retroactive for four years, when they were already almost two years into the next contract.

 

The biggest problem is that too many older teachers should be retired. Something like only 15% of all union members even voted, and the younger teachers or part timers didn't bother. Then when the senior teachers retire, they get called back on contract because they go to the top of the hire board.

 

Whoever said that the union is too strong, is absolutely correct in BC. The new younger teachers just out of school with enthusiasm and excitement for teaching, have no chance to even get a job.

 

For the teachers that really want to teach, I have all the respect in the world. It is a difficult job, and especially today, with all the difficulties they face in mainstreamed kids. But there are too many that are putting in time, waiting for that pension. And believe me, they are not putting in four hours extra per day marking papers or doing reports etc. In BC ever teacher gets time during their work week to do all this.

[BigRed]

Teaching is not 9-5 though. Lots of extra time doing prep work and marking etc.

 

This always comes up during discussions about teachers, and I think it's blown way out of proportion, at least for certain classes.

 

My grade 9 math teacher I know for a fact did crap-all outside the classroom, other than maybe complete report cards if he didn't finish during his prep period, which he probably did. We had weekly quizzes on Friday, and switched with the person beside us and marked our friends quizzes during class. Probably 75% of it was multiple choice, and then 25% where you had to show your work/equations. We had tests/exams on those computerized multiple choice cards where you just stick them in a machine and they spit out a grade (in college we had full course exams using those cards). biology, chemistry, physics -- any course with lots of math/equations, as much of it was multiple choice as possible.

 

The courses that I see as being "prep/marking heavy" are things like english, philosophy, law, etc where the students are doing tons of essay work, case studies, etc, but if you're getting into teaching something like that you should hopefully realize that by the time you're out of teachers college. Even then, there was tons of times we'd be given a period to work on an essay, and the teacher is sitting at their desk marking, using the class time as an extra prep period for themselves.

 

If you want a strict 9-5, or a job where you can just shut down after working 8 hours, go get a job in a factory. Of course that likely doesn't come with 11-12 weeks vacation, potential 70-95K salary, tons of sick days (that they used to be able to bank and retire early on), and a really good pension. People want all the benefits of the profession (good pay, more vacation than pretty much any other field, pension) but don't want to bust their ass off the other 40 weeks of the year. They want the job to be on a punchclock like it's a factory.

 

The reality is many people who work in an office, own their own business, work something like real estate (or have to schedule their work around that of their customers, many who work days), etc have to put in work at all kinds of hours of the day. 2 years ago when I bought my first house (place I was renting was being sold by owner) I didn't book time off work to go house hunting. Every day from 6-10PM I'm going to houses with my real estate agent. I was going out on weekends. That's typical for them. In the day their taking calls, booking appointments, posting/updating listings online, etc. I work in an office at a factory, but part of my job requires me to audit all 3 production shifts. Typically 2-3 times a month I'm working a midnight shift, or an afternoon (and then I'm back the next morning for my normal day shift), or I'll just work a double shift. I'm non-unionized, salaried management, I don't get paid OT, I get my annual salary, and if we do good, a raise and a bonus. I normally work 45 hour weeks. I don't threaten to strike every 3-4 years like it seems teachers do.

 

I know a few people that went into teaching, and a ton of nurses, and honestly, they seem like the two whiniest professions to me (according to my facebook feed anyway), and coincidentally (or maybe not) they are both female dominated professions.

[Grant77]

This always comes up during discussions about teachers, and I think it's blown way out of proportion, at least for certain classes.

 

My grade 9 math teacher I know for a fact did crap-all outside the classroom, other than maybe complete report cards if he didn't finish during his prep period, which he probably did. We had weekly quizzes on Friday, and switched with the person beside us and marked our friends quizzes during class. Probably 75% of it was multiple choice, and then 25% where you had to show your work/equations. We had tests/exams on those computerized multiple choice cards where you just stick them in a machine and they spit out a grade (in college we had full course exams using those cards). biology, chemistry, physics -- any course with lots of math/equations, as much of it was multiple choice as possible.

 

The courses that I see as being "prep/marking heavy" are things like english, philosophy, law, etc where the students are doing tons of essay work, case studies, etc, but if you're getting into teaching something like that you should hopefully realize that by the time you're out of teachers college. Even then, there was tons of times we'd be given a period to work on an essay, and the teacher is sitting at their desk marking, using the class time as an extra prep period for themselves.

 

If you want a strict 9-5, or a job where you can just shut down after working 8 hours, go get a job in a factory. Of course that likely doesn't come with 11-12 weeks vacation, potential 70-95K salary, tons of sick days (that they used to be able to bank and retire early on), and a really good pension. People want all the benefits of the profession (good pay, more vacation than pretty much any other field, pension) but don't want to bust their ass off the other 40 weeks of the year. They want the job to be on a punchclock like it's a factory.

 

The reality is many people who work in an office, own their own business, work something like real estate (or have to schedule their work around that of their customers, many who work days), etc have to put in work at all kinds of hours of the day. 2 years ago when I bought my first house (place I was renting was being sold by owner) I didn't book time off work to go house hunting. Every day from 6-10PM I'm going to houses with my real estate agent. I was going out on weekends. That's typical for them. In the day their taking calls, booking appointments, posting/updating listings online, etc. I work in an office at a factory, but part of my job requires me to audit all 3 production shifts. Typically 2-3 times a month I'm working a midnight shift, or an afternoon (and then I'm back the next morning for my normal day shift), or I'll just work a double shift. I'm non-unionized, salaried management, I don't get paid OT, I get my annual salary, and if we do good, a raise and a bonus. I normally work 45 hour weeks. I don't threaten to strike every 3-4 years like it seems teachers do.

 

I know a few people that went into teaching, and a ton of nurses, and honestly, they seem like the two whiniest professions to me (according to my facebook feed anyway), and coincidentally (or maybe not) they are both female dominated professions.

 

Scantron. What a stupid way to evaluate people. I got half of the questions I didn't know just by looking at the prefix or suffix and making an educated guess. Writing it out is the only way to truly test someone's knowledge.

[BigRed]

Scantron. What a stupid way to evaluate people. I got half of the questions I didn't know just by looking at the prefix or suffix and making an educated guess. Writing it out is the only way to truly test someone's knowledge.

 

hahah yes!!

 

I couldn't remember the name and it was killing me. Thank you, I can sleep now.