Sooo... when is it appropriate for AA to announce his deal with the Marlins?

[admin]

I think it should be noted, that because of signing Vlad Jr., we will not be able to sign any IFA's for over $300,000. That will also limit us from being able to add prospect depth next year. Thanks to being able to trade Locastro and DeJong for International Slot, we will be able to go after the IFA's of 2017, when some major player's are sitting out.

 

Maybe I'm reaching, but could the Vlad Jr deal have something to do with Shapiro/AA issues? I didn't see it, but someone mentioned in a post that out of no where AA kept bringing up Vlad Jr in one of his interviews on how much he liked Vlad Jr and how he's going to be an MLB player one day. I found that kinda odd. Maybe he was subtly defending the signing.

[Nafro]

Most organizations do, but I'm not a f***ing scout.

 

s***, John Mayo and John Sickels can sit at home in their pyjamas and name 30+ legitimate prospects with MLB potential in basically every MLB organization. Just because BA and BP do top 10 lists and most public sector scouts don't have the resources to properly evaluate the very low minors doesn't mean that potential real talent doesn't run 50+ names deep and all the way down to the DOSL and VESL.

 

Just as a reference, before John Sickels does his offseason top 20 for each team he does a preliminary prospect list that tends to run 40+ names deep, and then gets community input on who to cut/keep.

 

The Jays still easily have 40-50+ prospects of interest.

[Laika]

The Jays still easily have 40-50+ prospects of interest.

 

I think their farm is still fine. Below average, obviously, but there is still depth - especially in the low minors.

 

The 50+ number is actually a little light, in all likelihood and if we're including guys with say, bench potential or 7th RP potential.

[Nafro]

Maybe I'm reaching, but could the Vlad Jr deal have something to do with Shapiro/AA issues? I didn't see it, but someone mentioned in a post that out of no where AA kept bringing up Vlad Jr in one of his interviews on how much he liked Vlad Jr and how he's going to be an MLB player one day. I found that kinda odd. Maybe he was subtly defending the signing.

 

I don't know about that. That being said the signing was definitely different than what we had done previous. That being said the rules have only been in effect for a couple years. The risk of being penalized the next signing period is missing out on a generational talent. The probelem with the rules is you have to be penalized at least one and more likely two years to get any of the top prospects now.

 

Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't set up. Hopefully we see an International draft come into play. I think its just a matter of time.

[Nafro]

I think their farm is still fine. Below average, obviously, but there is still depth - especially in the low minors.

 

The 50+ number is actually a little light, in all likelihood and if we're including guys with say, bench potential or 7th RP potential.

 

Sadly I get excited for 7th RP's like Chad Girodo.

[Frenchsoup]

and now you can go back and read what I wrote again.

 

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[Laika]

Sadly I get excited for 7th RP's like Chad Girodo.

 

Chad Girodo is for real, man. Lefties that throw 87 don't grow on trees!

 

One guy that I consider a legitimate RP prospect who I hope stays in the organization is Ben Rowen

[Nafro]

I cannot even throw with my left hand. Agree on Rowen, also am intrigued now by Dragmire, Infante and a few others. Rowen can be our own O'Day.

[Nafro]

Cool blog on state of farm.

 

http://lansinglugnuts.mlblogs.com/2015/09/22/blue-jays-prospecting-looking-toward-2016/

[Spanky99]

The only way he Amaro's the org is if he extends Bautista and Eddy to massive contracts. Amaro did so many dumb things, the fact you guys are even mentioning him in the same sentence with AA is pretty mind boggling.

 

I can agree with this, 16' is the last kick at the can, we'll take the comp picks for EE and Bats either way. They might sign one, but I highly doubt it. I'm pretty sure AA would be slashing payroll after next season.

[Spanky99]

Chad Girodo is for real, man. Lefties that throw 87 don't grow on trees!

 

One guy that I consider a legitimate RP prospect who I hope stays in the organization is Ben Rowen

 

How about Stilson, is he dead now?

[Spanky99]

Cool blog on state of farm.

 

http://lansinglugnuts.mlblogs.com/2015/09/22/blue-jays-prospecting-looking-toward-2016/

 

Wait, I just read this, lol.

[GD]

Holy s***, I'm dumn. Nothing to see here. I was actually sitting here confused at why you weren't making sense.

 

I really am going to turn into you one day

[King]

How about Stilson, is he dead now?

 

He's just a guy now.

[BTS]

I really am going to turn into you one day

 

As this was happening I thought to myself "GD would do this".

[Spanky99]

He's just a guy now.

 

No more heat, or still injured?

[GD]

As this was happening I thought to myself "GD would do this".

 

At least now you know how it feels you misogynist

 

Glad to know I've infiltrated your thoughts

[Spanky99]

At least now you know how it feels you misogynist

 

Glad to know I've infiltrated your thoughts

 

This is so gauche.

[GD]

This is so gauche.

 

That's a pretty egregious statement imo.

[Spanky99]

That's a pretty egregious statement imo.

 

lol... indefensible?!

[Boxcar]

What's Friedman done that I should be raving about again? Traded Kemp for Grandel, traded for Alex Wood, signed Anderson, McCarthy and Howie Kendrick. Did I miss something interesting?

 

lol jesus christ

[BTS]

lol... indefensible?!

 

And we've hit the nadir of our value.

[Spanky99]

And we've hit the nadir of our value.

 

Kaboom!

[GD]

And we've hit the nadir of our value.

 

Did you run a reg- nah someone made that joke already

[BTS]

Did you run a reg- nah someone made that joke already

 

Ironically, that's pretty much what I was doing while posting earlier.

[saskjayfan]

lol jesus christ

 

you have to admit trading players for rollins and paying him 11 million and getting virtually no value wasn't the best move.

[Boxcar]

you have to admit trading players for rollins and paying him 11 million and getting virtually no value wasn't the best move.

 

What I'll admit is that a few of you have no idea what you're talking about. Listing all those moves as "meh" is hilarious. The Kemp deal alone was far better than the Donaldson trade.

[BTS]

you have to admit trading players for rollins and paying him 11 million and getting virtually no value wasn't the best move.

 

I see that a lot like a saw the Melky signing after year one: a zero-risk gamble on a guy that you would have projected to do well, but that didn't work out. Those are the moves it's ok to whiff on.

[BTS]

Maicer Izturis falls under the same category for me.

[IBTrini]

I disagree. AA was being a total Dombrowski and eventually the Jays would have become the 2015 Tigers. The Jays are exciting right now but definitely not sustainable.

Seems like we have different opinions however I feel Anthopoulos is smart enough to see the situation for what it is and I would have had faith in his ability to trade away his aging assets for a nice haul when the time was right. Anyway, I really hope Shapiro knows what he is doing cuz I feel he does not have Anthopoulos' ninja trading skills and he will surely need to be crafty going forward.