Offseason Roster Thread

[Spanky__99]

Dickey + for Ozuna

 

You just posted today that Ozuna is over-rated?

[Angrioter]

You just posted today that Ozuna is over-rated?

 

But he's better than Dickey for sure.

[Spanky__99]

But he's better than Dickey for sure.

 

The Jays need Dickey, and what is the +, any other year I agree.

[Ehjays]

we also added this to our list of invites to ST

 

[Spanky__99]

we also added this to our list of invites to ST

 

 

No secret, mate.

[Ehjays]

LOL

 

Yes I know, but I hadnt seen footage of him in MLB

[BeastMode]

Rosenthal ending any Dickey rumors

 

Also:

The Nationals agreed to pay the difference in Revere’s and Storen’s salaries -- Revere is projected to earn $6.7 million in arbitration by MLBTradeRumors.com, Storen $8.8 million. That element of the trade left the Jays with a small amount of financial flexibility, sources say. The team could use that money to make a lesser move, perhaps for a pitcher or outfielder.

 

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/wei-yin-chen-miami-marlins-drew-storen-trade-toronto-blue-jays-hot-stove-ken-rosenthal-010916

 

Maybe now some peeps can stop talking about Upton or Folwer etc..

 

The reality is we have next to nothing left in payroll at this point and won't be signing anyone significant.

[Jimcanuck]

Also:

 

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/wei-yin-chen-miami-marlins-drew-storen-trade-toronto-blue-jays-hot-stove-ken-rosenthal-010916

 

Maybe now some peeps can stop talking about Upton or Folwer etc..

 

The reality is we have next to nothing left in payroll at this point and won't be signing anyone significant.

 

Unless salary gets moved. You know, like how things are done in the NBA

[Ehjays]

After trade Update with Saunders/

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/2016/01/09/blue-jays-canadian-outfielders-anxious-to-fill-void-created-by-revere-trade-griffin.html

[Ehjays]

By that article he does no sound like he 100%

 

I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to see him available for the entire year.

[flafson]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/marcus-stroman-i-want-to-be-the-ace/

 

Very nice article mainly about Stroman, one thing to take from it, looks like Sanchez is now training with both Stroman and his Duke rehab team.

[Jimcanuck]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/marcus-stroman-i-want-to-be-the-ace/

 

Very nice article mainly about Stroman, one thing to take from it, looks like Sanchez is now training with both Stroman and his Duke rehab team.

 

Sanchez seems to be a well liked clubhouse guy, irrationally not liked on here by some posters. Him and Syndergaard were tight too back in the day.

[Atothe]

Sanchez seems to be a well liked clubhouse guy, irrationally not liked on here by some posters. Him and Syndergaard were tight too back in the day.

 

I don't think it's irrational at all. It seems that way when you can only see it from one side. Be objective.

[Maine Jays]

Miami could but we wouldn't get much in return.

 

I'd take five years of Carter Capps for one of Dickey.

 

Sanchez to the rotation. Capps in the seventh. Cecil eighth. Storen ninth. Turn Osuna into the Duane Ward clone for a year as suggested in the article on MLB Trade Rumors (110-120 innings in the pen this year, SP in 2017)

[sdyment]

Bowden tweet...

 

Ross Atkins Blue Jays GM told me this morning that he has told both Edwin Encarnacion and Jose Bautista that he wants to keep both long term rather than trade them or let them depart via free agency. They have not made any extension offers yet.... but have talked at length with both and have a scheduled meeting with Bautista next week.

 

Just FYI

[Ehjays]

Bowden tweet...

 

Ross Atkins Blue Jays GM told me this morning that he has told both Edwin Encarnacion and Jose Bautista that he wants to keep both long term rather than trade them or let them depart via free agency. They have not made any extension offers yet.... but have talked at length with both and have a scheduled meeting with Bautista next week.

 

Just FYI

 

You got a link to that?

[BigCecil]

Bowden tweet...

 

Ross Atkins Blue Jays GM told me this morning that he has told both Edwin Encarnacion and Jose Bautista that he wants to keep both long term rather than trade them or let them depart via free agency. They have not made any extension offers yet.... but have talked at length with both and have a scheduled meeting with Bautista next week.

 

Just FYI

 

Really like those two players a lot. But that does scare me. An aging expensive team doesn't sound Shapiro-like to me.

 

4/72 for 31 year old Gordon means ? for these two?

[guylaroche5]

Sanchez seems to be a well liked clubhouse guy, irrationally not liked on here by some posters. Him and Syndergaard were tight too back in the day.

 

yeah they irrationally hate the fact that he walks 5+ guys/game as a starter, the nerve of some posters....

[Cyborg]

I'd take five years of Carter Capps for one of Dickey.

 

Sanchez to the rotation. Capps in the seventh. Cecil eighth. Storen ninth. Turn Osuna into the Duane Ward clone for a year as suggested in the article on MLB Trade Rumors (110-120 innings in the pen this year, SP in 2017)

Capps was the best reliever in baseball last year. Should be closing.

[RealAccountant]

You got a link to that?

 

It's on mlbtr

[KingKat]

When you read all the quotes, it kind of sounds like Atkins has put a serious cap on how much he wants to spend on them and is going to try to see what kind of leverage he has to get them to agree to his terms. Doesn't sound like he's going to break the bank at all.

 

http://www.thescore.com/news/932962

[RealAccountant]

I think this is just formality. Neither will get the kind of offers that will make them avoid free agency.

 

The only hope we have is that both look at the unsigned offensive free agents left and rationalize that security is more important.

[glory]

Bautista on a four year deal after this season would cover ages 36-39 and Edwin for the same length would cover ages 34-37.

 

I find it very hard to believe that this regime would pay those guys $20m a year over those ages when you're looking at a realistic drop in performance. Maybe they re-sign one of them if the right deal comes along, or one of the players has trouble finding the right suitor in free agency, but I'm heading into 2016 expecting this to be the last season for both guys in Toronto. This is one of the few times where "Alex would have tried to do it" would actually be a realistic narrative. I don't think Shapiro + Atkins will go that route.

 

This screams "Dave Dombrowski", though. At least one will end up in Boston, likely by Dombrowski bidding against himself.

[RealAccountant]

I think as long as this regime makes a real effort to win it all in 2016 no one will be upset.

[xposbrad]

Really like those two players a lot. But that does scare me. An aging expensive team doesn't sound Shapiro-like to me.

 

4/72 for 31 year old Gordon means ? for these two?

 

Fans will like it for the first 1-2 years, then the last 1-2 they will wish they were traded sooner. Too bad, the Jays have budget constraints but they could really build off getting prospects if they agreed to trades (maybe sign and trade). The habs were in a similar situation with Markov, and now he's basically an overpaid 4th dman who is slow and can't keep up. Sometimes it just takes a small period of time for age to catch up to you, then you wished you did things differently. The Jays don't have the NYY luxury of just adding and adding if things go wrong.

[Stangstag]

I think as long as this regime makes a real effort to win it all in 2016 no one will be upset.

 

Oh yes they will. Have you seen the idiot casuals?

[RealAccountant]

Oh yes they will. Have you seen the idiot casuals?

 

They aren't idiots. Just because they have an opinion that's different doesn't make them.any less.

[Boxcar]

yeah they irrationally hate the fact that he walks 5+ guys/game as a starter, the nerve of some posters....

 

Buncha dicks

[Boxcar]

Bautista on a four year deal after this season would cover ages 36-39 and Edwin for the same length would cover ages 34-37.

 

I find it very hard to believe that this regime would pay those guys $20m a year over those ages when you're looking at a realistic drop in performance. Maybe they re-sign one of them if the right deal comes along, or one of the players has trouble finding the right suitor in free agency, but I'm heading into 2016 expecting this to be the last season for both guys in Toronto. This is one of the few times where "Alex would have tried to do it" would actually be a realistic narrative. I don't think Shapiro + Atkins will go that route.

 

This screams "Dave Dombrowski", though. At least one will end up in Boston, likely by Dombrowski bidding against himself.

 

I think there's a very good chance that Bautista and Encarnacion are both worth more than the contracts they sign; that should be the bottom line for Atkins. Unlikely you're going to get players of their value for less money via FA or trade, signing them seems the best option. I think both guys will age exceptionally well.

[Trouba95]

Edwin - resign

 

Jose - let walk