Offseason Roster Thread

[Spanky99]

He isn't though. Tanaka was much better in Japan, has better stuff and was two years younger.

 

Maeda is more of a mid-rotation starter. The Yankees paid Tanaka like he was an elite pitcher.

 

So, he'll get the same money.

[Spanky99]

You should've put his AAV in your contest, instead of BIG PELF, lol.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

[Jimcanuck]

 

damnit.... wanted him moved for Thor

[Boxcar]

 

How is that "the biggest" trade in blue jays history? AA has made a few that are quite a bit bigger in whatever metric you want to use.

[G-Snarls]

How is that "the biggest" trade in blue jays history? AA has made a few that are quite a bit bigger in whatever metric you want to use.

 

Most immediately successful?

[Boxcar]

Most immediately successful?

 

Donaldson trade was far better in that regard.

[Jimcanuck]

How is that "the biggest" trade in blue jays history? AA has made a few that are quite a bit bigger in whatever metric you want to use.

 

Trade for a young, future HOF'er is a tough metric to beat.

[Laika]

How is that "the biggest" trade in blue jays history? AA has made a few that are quite a bit bigger in whatever metric you want to use.

 

for the lore

[Boxcar]

Trade for a young, future HOF'er is a tough metric to beat.

 

By giving up just about equal value. Josh Donaldson just had a season that dwarfs any Alomar had. He may also end up being a hall of famer.

[Grant77]

By giving up just about equal value. Josh Donaldson just had a season that dwarfs any Alomar had. He may also end up being a hall of famer.

 

When he plays an essential role in delivering 2 World Series titles, I'll consider it a more important trade. Not that this is a logical opinion, but I was 5 years old and Joe Carter was pretty much my idol for a long time.

[Laika]

When he plays an essential role in delivering 2 World Series titles, I'll consider it a more important trade. Not that this is a logical opinion, but I was 5 years old and Joe Carter was pretty much my idol for a long time.

 

You probably had a mantis named Joe

[Laika]

I was a professional mantis for 16 weeks, and let me tell you, when the female mating partner consumes your head after delivery of the spermatophore, it takes a toll on your body. I found the physical strain to be tremendous. That's why I turn to Weber Naturals glucosamine chondroitin.

[burlingtonbandit]

Wonder if Shapiro and the FO has talked contract extensions with any of the players yet. Donaldson and Bautista have said they wanted to finish their careers here and Stroman retweeted an article mentioning him as a target for young players to be extended for what its worth. The longer they wait the more expensive its going to be.

[Grant77]

I was a professional mantis for 16 weeks, and let me tell you, when the female mating partner consumes your head after delivery of the spermatophore, it takes a toll on your body. I found the physical strain to be tremendous. That's why I turn to Weber Naturals glucosamine chondroitin.

 

lol, well done.

[Jimcanuck]

Wonder if Shapiro and the FO has talked contract extensions with any of the players yet. Donaldson and Bautista have said they wanted to finish their careers here and Stroman retweeted an article mentioning him as a target for young players to be extended for what its worth. The longer they wait the more expensive its going to be.

 

whats the flip side of not waiting?

 

hint: a lot of people here wanted Lawrie signed long term

[DerangedIdoit]

I was a professional mantis for 16 weeks, and let me tell you, when the female mating partner consumes your head after delivery of the spermatophore, it takes a toll on your body. I found the physical strain to be tremendous. That's why I turn to Weber Naturals glucosamine chondroitin.

 

This is one example where celebrity endorsement is essential. Only way customers will even bother is when they ask the aisle clerk "where's that s*** that Joe Carter hocks?"

[DerangedIdoit]

Pillar for Hendricks

[taximan89]

Someone should tweet Roy Halladay to tell him to sweet talk his buddy Cliff Lee into considering Toronto this year.

[wamco]

Trading away mcgriff and tony Fernandez was pretty damn big.

[Boxcar]

Trading away mcgriff and tony Fernandez was pretty damn big.

 

So what's the metric, then? Giving away good players to get equally good players back? If so, Miami trade was bigger. Getting a franchise quality player in a deal for a fan favourite? Lawrie + for Donaldson was a better deal for the Jays than McGriff + Fernandez for Carter and Alomar.

 

The REAL reason it's considered the biggest by some people is due to nostalgia only, which is a pretty s***** reason.

[Frenchsoup]

Happ, Estrada deals looking like steals atm.

[flafson]

Happ, Estrada deals looking like steals atm.

 

Are you sure? Everyone quoting the Happ deal as a huge factor in why prices been going extremely high this year. It's like they are saying, if someone as bad as Happ can get 30M, someone of value is worth the whole farm.

[nmrch]

Are you sure? Everyone quoting the Happ deal as a huge factor in why prices been going extremely high this year. It's like they are saying, if someone as bad as Happ can get 30M, someone of value is worth the whole farm.

 

That's not how markets work. There has been an explosion in baseball revenues in the last couple of years and the money is now trickling down to the players, its got nothing to do with Happ.

[Frenchsoup]

Are you sure? Everyone quoting the Happ deal as a huge factor in why prices been going extremely high this year. It's like they are saying, if someone as bad as Happ can get 30M, someone of value is worth the whole farm.

 

Happ isn't bad first of all. Secondly, if Happ waits out the market he probably get a lot more from somewhere else. The Jays just attacked him and got their man.

[Laika]

Happ, Estrada deals looking like steals atm.

 

Happ might still be a fair market deal come spring. Lots of people were floored when he got 36M, but at this point it looks like that was just the first domino to fall in a crazy FA market surge.

 

The Estrada deal looks pretty nice though. He probably would have easily gotten a 3rd year on the market.

[Frenchsoup]

It's also totally possible that you can QO Estrada/Happ/Chavez at the ends of their contracts so there is a bit more value there.

[Atothe]

It's also totally possible that you can QO Estrada/Happ/Chavez at the ends of their contracts so there is a bit more value there.

 

Come again? Why would you QO a 34 year old, a 36 year old and a 33 year old? None of which are worth it

[Laika]

It's also totally possible that you can QO Estrada/Happ/Chavez at the ends of their contracts so there is a bit more value there.

 

Very remote possibilities. None of them are likely to be good enough to warrant a QO when they are free agents.