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Irv Carter with his pro debut today. Got touched up a bit, but also showed some swing and miss.

 

3.2IP, 4H, 3R, 3ER, 3BB, 6K

 

Through 3 innings and 2 batters he was 3.1 IP, 5 K, 2 BB, 2 hits, 1 run. Then perhaps ran out of gas against the final 4 batters.

 

Young pitcher running out of gas late in an outing making the line look worse that he probably pitched is completely acceptable IMO. Most of the outing was strong. Stamina will come but it's not a priority right now. Way more ideal doing it that way than consistently giving up a walk, hit and run every inning where you're just bad rather than having a reason for the marginal line.

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Talent is diluted now because of the minor league level removal. Players are in that league that in last years would not have been pitching that high

 

wRC+ would adjust for that though, no? Everyone's facing the same level of competition generally.

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Hayden Juenger tonight: 4 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 5 K. 48 pitches.

 

Tanner Morris, who had no hits in his first two games in Triple-A, has two singles so far tonight.

 

Nathan Lukes 1-for-2 so far with a walk and a homer. Average up to .308.

 

Dahian Santos had his worst outing of the year: 3 IP, 4 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 3 K. 65 pitches.

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Tiedemann 5 IP, 9 K, 1 BB, 3 hits, 0 runs

 

Thews 84 pitches which is 8 more than the 1 start they pulled him due to pitch count which is interesting

 

Oh man, he must have struck out the side in the 5th. I saw that he was on 6k after 4. What a performance.

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Tiedemann 5 IP, 9 K, 1 BB, 3 hits, 0 runs

 

Thews 84 pitches which is 8 more than the 1 start they pulled him due to pitch count which is interesting

 

He’s gonna move fast.

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wRC+ would adjust for that though, no? Everyone's facing the same level of competition generally.

 

No, if the peer talent is generally worse then a great player will be relatively speaking even greater

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wRC+ would adjust for that though, no? Everyone's facing the same level of competition generally.

 

wRC+ Is a great tool to use when the average player skill stays relatively the same from year to year. If the talent pool gets diluted heavily, the average skill level goes down, making wRC+ a less important measure.

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Hayden Juenger tonight: 4 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 5 K. 48 pitches.

 

Tanner Morris, who had no hits in his first two games in Triple-A, has two singles so far tonight.

 

Nathan Lukes 1-for-2 so far with a walk and a homer. Average up to .308.

 

Dahian Santos had his worst outing of the year: 3 IP, 4 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 3 K. 65 pitches.

 

Why the f*** is Lukes not up with the MLB club? He has to be a better option than Zimmer, even if he's not AS good on defence.

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Why the f*** is Lukes not up with the MLB club? He has to be a better option than Zimmer, even if he's not AS good on defence.

 

Yep. Let's say he hits .270 with average defense up here and a .750 OPS. That's better than what Tapia and Zimmer offer.

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Tiedemann 5 IP, 9 K, 1 BB, 3 hits, 0 runs

 

Thews 84 pitches which is 8 more than the 1 start they pulled him due to pitch count which is interesting

 

Whens his next start, Saturday?

 

I'd like to see him before he moves up, if he hasn't already by then lol.

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Whens his next start, Saturday?

 

I'd like to see him before he moves up, if he hasn't already by then lol.

 

Friday if they keep things as they have been

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Yep. Let's say he hits .270 with average defense up here and a .750 OPS. That's better than what Tapia and Zimmer offer.

 

I cant agree with this comment enough, we traded a better pitcher than some of the scrubs they bring up from the minors for a guy with a worse bat than what we have already in the organisation

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I cant agree with this comment enough, we traded a better pitcher than some of the scrubs they bring up from the minors for a guy with a worse bat than what we have already in the organisation

 

Zimmer was worth 1.4 WAR with an 89 wRC+ last year, his wRC+ is ***21*** this year. If he was hitting anywhere approaching his career numbers with his speed and defence, he'd be a nice bench piece, but we are not getting what anyone would have reasonable expected when that trade was made. It SHOULD have been an expendable arm for a good bench bat.

 

Castro's not having a good year either, his only not atrocious stat is his 3.30 xFIP, all the rest of his numbers are putrid (in only 6.2 MLB innings).

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Zimmer was worth 1.4 WAR with an 89 wRC+ last year, his wRC+ is ***21*** this year. If he was hitting anywhere approaching his career numbers with his speed and defence, he'd be a nice bench piece, but we are not getting what anyone would have reasonable expected when that trade was made. It SHOULD have been an expendable arm for a good bench bat.

 

Castro's not having a good year either, his only not atrocious stat is his 3.30 xFIP, all the rest of his numbers are putrid (in only 6.2 MLB innings).

 

I agree he was "expected" to perform better but he is not. And we have a better option on the farm who deserves a shot ....time to move on from what should have been.

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I agree he was "expected" to perform better but he is not. And we have a better option on the farm who deserves a shot ....time to move on from what should have been.

 

100% agree that he should have been jettisoned into the sun and replaced by Lukes weeks ago, just that it wasn't actually a bad trade with the information available at the time.

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Not sure if already posted, but Ricky Tiedemenn is now represented by Scott Boras, according to Tiedemenn’s Instagram profile.
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Not sure if already posted, but Ricky Tiedemenn is now represented by Scott Boras, according to Tiedemenn’s Instagram profile.

 

Well. It'll be a nice 6 seasons we get out of him.

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Well. It'll be a nice 6 seasons we get out of him.

 

Well because he hired Boras, we will now have to manipulate his service time so 6+ seasons

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Palmegianni and Nunez at single A are both kind of killing it. I wonder if one or both get the bump soonish. Maybe after guys from the FCL get promoted.

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