Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[connorp]

Say what tard', 2 steaks are Ribeyes!

 

Haha. My bad. I didn’t know that lingo

[Spanky__99]

Haha. My bad. I didn’t know that lingo

 

Yes, hang your head in shame. lol

 

Whats pepper mean???

 

Texas Leaguer???

 

Throw em the chair???

[connorp]

Yes, hang your head in shame. lol

 

Whats pepper mean???

 

Texas Leaguer???

 

Throw em the chair???

 

Lol I only know pepper

Throw em the chair only makes me think of WWE

Texas Leaguer sounds like a sex act maybe, or just a big burger/steak? Idk man

[WryNGinger]

Yes, hang your head in shame. lol

 

Whats pepper mean???

 

Texas Leaguer???

 

Throw em the chair???

 

Is "Throw em the chair" a Bull Durham reference? Asking for a friend.

[John_Havok]

Lol I only know pepper

Throw em the chair only makes me think of WWE

Texas Leaguer sounds like a sex act maybe, or just a big burger/steak? Idk man

 

Continue to hang your head in shame sir.

[Spanky__99]

Continue to hang your head in shame sir.

 

lol John

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Cheers Johm

[Spanky__99]

Is "Throw em the chair" a Bull Durham reference? Asking for a friend.

 

Usually means a curveball, though anybody with an arm of a lot of pitches in his arsenal.

Edited November 6, 2021 by Spanky99

[Eat My Shatkins]

I thought throw him a chair meant to "sit him down"....as in get him out.

[Krylian]

I thought throw him a chair meant to "sit him down"....as in get him out.

 

I know it as 'strike him out'

[InsideThePark]

Dominguez 6 IP, 2 runs, 1 earned on a HR. Just 3 hits, 0 walks with 6 K's

[Jimcanuck]

Note the bolded part in this BA article:

 

As Gabriel Moreno dominated Double-A Northeast through the first two months of the season, Blue Jays farm director Gil Kim kept wondering if league pitchers would find a way to slow the 21-year-old catcher.

 

A fractured left thumb on June 25 deprived Toronto of an answer. Moreno missed the rest of the season but returned to terrorize pitchers in the Arizona Fall League.

 

“There's tremendous benefit and advantage in increasing his reps behind the plate and in him continuing to hone his swing decisions,” Kim said. “We definitely see a development benefit (in the AFL) as well as generally making up for lost time.”

 

Moreno was batting .373/.441/.651 through 32 games with New Hampshire before the injury, and the organization was already discussing a promotion. The downtime ended that conversation, and by the time he was ready to return in September, Triple-A Buffalo was the only place for him to go.

 

He appeared in three games for the Bisons, then headed to Arizona.

 

Intriguingly, Moreno will take regular infield while primarily catching with Mesa, extending the work he did at the Blue Jays' complex in Dunedin, Fla. He played one game at third base for New Hampshire and could potentially see some action there in the AFL.

 

The Blue Jays are relatively deep behind the plate with Danny Jansen, Alejandro Kirk and Reese McGuire finishing the year in the majors, but they have holes at third base and potentially at second base if Marcus Semien departs as a free agent.

 

While the hot corner “is not (Moreno’s) primary position, it is an option that maybe down the road will be in play,” Kim said. “Right now we're focused on catching, but as we've seen, maximizing versatility is huge.”

 

Kim said the Blue Jays were most pleased by Moreno’s “step up in leadership and routines” this season, despite his youth, particularly in “being able to get on the same page with the pitching staff and the coaching staff, review how we're going to attack the group of hitters that night, and review the next day how that went and being accountable to that."

[Jimcanuck]

An infield of Vlad, Javy Baez -2B, Bichette, and Moreno by July 2022, with Biggio and Espinal as reserves (and Grichuk who cares where), would be incredible IMO.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Listened to a pod cast yesterday, Zwelling I think...they had Atkins on. He sure sounded like he felt Biggio was still going to be a big part of the team next season. Was excited about his discipline at the plate adding a different look to the Jays batting order.

[Brownie19]

Listened to a pod cast yesterday, Zwelling I think...they had Atkins on. He sure sounded like he felt Biggio was still going to be a big part of the team next season. Was excited about his discipline at the plate adding a different look to the Jays batting order.

 

I mean he posted 3.7 WAR over his first 160 games and will now be entering his prime seasons. Last year was a disaster where he was asked to play out of position and then was essentially hurt for most the season. I would be shocked if we don't head into next year with Biggio as the starting 2nd baseman and if he's the weakest positional player we have, we're probably in great shape.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Brownie19

[Eat My Shatkins]

I mean he posted 3.7 WAR over his first 160 games and will now be entering his prime seasons. Last year was a disaster where he was asked to play out of position and then was essentially hurt for most the season. I would be shocked if we don't head into training game with Biggio as the starting 2nd baseman and if he's the weakest positional player we have, we're probably in great shape.

 

Agreed

[John_Havok]

Listened to a pod cast yesterday, Zwelling I think...they had Atkins on. He sure sounded like he felt Biggio was still going to be a big part of the team next season. Was excited about his discipline at the plate adding a different look to the Jays batting order.

 

Biggio definitely walks that line between patient and passive though. Seems there's an abnormally high amount of times he just doesn't seem interested in swinging, like he's made up his mind before the pitch if he's going to swing or not.

[FantasyNewb]

Moreno started at 3rd today.

[Spanky__99]

Moreno started at 3rd today.

 

Nice. Give him all the reps Mesa!

 

He also went 2-4 a 2B with a BB and a ribeye!

[Jimcanuck]

It's happening, folks!

[max silver]

Biggio definitely walks that line between patient and passive though. Seems there's an abnormally high amount of times he just doesn't seem interested in swinging, like he's made up his mind before the pitch if he's going to swing or not.

 

I don't think Biggio has fully honed in his approach yet. He is likely better served to return to his more selective ways of his first few seasons and leverage his strength which is the elite plate discipline. I don't think his attempt to be more aggressive and use the whole field really suits him very well, as the hit tool isn't one of his better attributes, and that would likely lead to him being on base less and providing a lot less power output.

[John_Havok]

I don't think Biggio has fully honed in his approach yet. He is likely better served to return to his more selective ways of his first few seasons and leverage his strength which is the elite plate discipline. I don't think his attempt to be more aggressive and use the whole field really suits him very well, as the hit tool isn't one of his better attributes, and that would likely lead to him being on base less and providing a lot less power output.

 

Definitely. He can still take his walks but needs to not worry so much about spraying it. He also doesn’t handle the fastball high in the zone well which is kind of a problem right now. He does have lots of oppo power though.

[TwistedLogic]

 

That looks like an elite pickoff move.

[THANOS]

Definitely. He can still take his walks but needs to not worry so much about spraying it. He also doesn’t handle the fastball high in the zone well which is kind of a problem right now. He does have lots of oppo power though.

 

I'll preface this by saying it's easier said than done, but Biggio should completely revert his approach back and spend the entire offseason building strength/muscle to combat the change to the ball that way. In theory, if he's stronger, the balls will carry farther, but I know 1+1 doesn't always equal 2 in this case.

[P2F]

Per BA:

 

Gabriel Moreno, C, Blue Jays — Before he broke his thumb in the regular season, Moreno had emerged as one of the best prospects in the game. In Arizona, he's reinforced that reputation and stands as the clear-cut best prospect in the league. Despite a swing with loud movements at the top, Moreno has consistently shown the ability to be on time and manipulate the barrel to not only get to pitches in all sectors of the strike zone, but to hit them with authority as well. He's lashed balls from line to line against both velocity and spin, and enters the fifth week of the AFL hitting .373/.469/.588 with eight doubles, a home run and more walks (11) than strikeouts (eight). Lest you think his output was a fluke fueled by pitching that can mostly be described as highly flammable, Moreno hit .373/.471/.508 in 2020 in the Venezuelan Winter League. Perhaps even more interesting than his offense is where Moreno played defensively on Saturday. Against Surprise, the top Blue Jays prospect stepped out from behind the plate and continued dabbling at third base. He only got one chance—a slow roller that would have been a 50-50 ball for many players more experienced at the position—but the fact that Toronto is giving Moreno experience at the hot corner will help open another avenue toward big league time on a club flush with young catching like Alejandro Kirk and Danny Jansen.

[John_Havok]

I'll preface this by saying it's easier said than done, but Biggio should completely revert his approach back and spend the entire offseason building strength/muscle to combat the change to the ball that way. In theory, if he's stronger, the balls will carry farther, but I know 1+1 doesn't always equal 2 in this case.

 

Strength isn't Biggio's problem, the power is already there.

[Ryu In My House]

Strength isn't Biggio's problem, the power is already there.

 

Are you being sarcastic? The kid has below average power.

[John_Havok]

Are you being sarcastic? The kid has below average power.

 

No. What I'm saying is strength isn't the problem. He just doesn't utilize what he has very well.

[Jimcanuck]

Are you being sarcastic? The kid has below average power.

 

55 raw power is above average

[max silver]

Biggio has decent power, he just lacks the contact ability to regularly tap into it.

[connorp]

55 raw power is above average

 

50 throw isn’t crappy either but it’s also not accurate