InvincibleTiger Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 It’s possible, but it doesn’t always work like that. When Ronald Acuna was 19 like Orelvis. His strike out rates were: A+ - 31.7% AA - 23.0% AAA - 19.8% It got better each level he advanced, for some reason. He’s hitting for a ton of power for a 19 year old, and his strike out rate isn’t outrageous by any means. I think it’s just a matter of fine tuning things as he progresses. This is reassuring.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Please never comp Orelvis to Acuna ever again. A dream outcome would be like… Eugenio Suarez.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 If Milb.com had plate appearances listed in their monthly splits listed it would be very easy to calculate, but unfortunately it looks like only at bats are listed. The values I've calculated should still be close though, for plate appearances I have added at bats to walks. This will miss things like sacrifice flies, but I don't think that will affect the final results too much. May BB% 9.9 K% 23.8 June BB% 10.1 K% 29.6 July BB% 9.6 K% 32.7 It’s possible, but it doesn’t always work like that. When Ronald Acuna was 19 like Orelvis. His strike out rates were: A+ - 31.7% AA - 23.0% AAA - 19.8% It got better each level he advanced, for some reason. He’s hitting for a ton of power for a 19 year old, and his strike out rate isn’t outrageous by any means. I think it’s just a matter of fine tuning things as he progresses. This is reassuring. Please never comp Orelvis to Acuna ever again. A dream outcome would be like… Eugenio Suarez. As encouraging as the comp made me feel, 100% this. It's not normal to improve your approach while adjusting to increasing difficulty at higher levels of competition. Now we can look at someone like Teo, who's managed to improve his approach, but look how many ABs in the majors it took him to find that adjustment and make the peripheral stats back it up. And the above does not always happen, Teo is a rare case. Most players peripherals get worse at each level and stay worse.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 As encouraging as the comp made me feel, 100% this. It's not normal to improve your approach while adjusting to increasing difficulty at higher levels of competition. Now we can look at someone like Teo, who's managed to improve his approach, but look how many ABs in the majors it took him to find that adjustment and make the peripheral stats back it up. And the above does not always happen, Teo is a rare case. Most players peripherals get worse at each level and stay worse. Don't forget as you move up, pitchers throw more consistent strikes/know where the ball is going usually. So if you want to get super technical, why and where are the Ks coming from and would that be worsened as he moves up or seen less due to more strikes seen
vaff Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Please never comp Orelvis to Acuna ever again. A dream outcome would be like… Eugenio Suarez. How did you take that as a comparison? I just gave an example of a player that improved his strikeout rate as he climbed the minors.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Author Posted July 18, 2021 Samad Taylor was back in the lineup today (DH). Went 1-3.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Author Posted July 18, 2021 Dasan Brown with his first pro homer tonight.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 And again!!! OPS up to 941 No strikeouts as well which is nice .
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Oh man, been waiting all year for Orelvis to go on a heater like this. Awesome.
InvincibleTiger Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 A 3rd homer for Orelvis!!!!!
vaff Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Over the last two games he’s 8-10, with 4 HR, 2 doubles, 12 RBI, and 2 walks.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Fitz Stadler pitched 2 innings today, struck out 5 against 1 walk and no hits or runs. He got his face caved in the first three games he pitched this season, but he's been really solid ever since. After his first 3 games: 25 IP, 40 K's, 17 walks, 1.90 ERA, 3.70 FIP 24 years old pitching at AA Might be something?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Author Posted July 18, 2021 Fitz Stadler pitched 2 innings today, struck out 5 against 1 walk and no hits or runs. He got his face caved in the first three games he pitched this season, but he's been really solid ever since. After his first 3 games: 25 IP, 40 K's, 17 walks, 1.90 ERA, 3.70 FIP 24 years old pitching at AA Might be something? Would be nice...but that's some pretty awful command.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Author Posted July 18, 2021 Video game Orelvis in effect.
InvincibleTiger Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Any update on Pearson? Last I heard was seeing a specialist for a 2nd/3rd opinion.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Any update on Pearson? Last I heard was seeing a specialist for a 2nd/3rd opinion. Up to 5th and 6th opinions now, haven't seen an update though
Ray Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Manuel Beltre also had a real good day: 3-for-4 with a walk. No K’s. He actually has more walks than K’s this season (short sample obviously). One to look out for, because he was heralded as one of the more highly touted hitting prospects coming out of the IFA class. Shatkins is keeping that pipeline strong. I’m ready for the next wave of stud prospects after Moreno/Martin/Groshans. Has to be the deepest farm system the Jays have had in a while.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Manuel Beltre also had a real good day: 3-for-4 with a walk. No K’s. He actually has more walks than K’s this season (short sample obviously). One to look out for, because he was heralded as one of the more highly touted hitting prospects coming out of the IFA class. Shatkins is keeping that pipeline strong. I’m ready for the next wave of stud prospects after Moreno/Martin/Groshans. Has to be the deepest farm system the Jays have had in a while. I really like Beltre. Him and Orelvis are ones to keep watching grow
InvincibleTiger Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 We have so many talented SS prospects
43211234 Verified Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Holy christ, have a weekend, Orelvis! Who cares about strikeouts when he's crushing baseballs like this!
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Did anyone share the most recent BA list yet? Is this even the official mid-season update or is it just a big update I'm assuming because of the draft? https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/2021-top-100-prospects/ Mid-season as usual with drafted players, hopefully Slade or someone can post it.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Got to imagine Dunedin is the perfect place to start and rehab. I imagine they will be back to a High A team next year. Could you post the mid-season top 100, please?
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