Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[BlueRocky]

 

Future Blue Jays top pitching prospect Kumar Rocker had a solid outing.

Good time tonight tuning into the college World Series run.

 

Future blue jays stud Austin Martin will be playing and current Blue Jays signee Philip Clarke, who just hit his 9th homer:

 

 

 

Grab everyone from Vanderbilt.

Edited June 26, 2019 by BlueRocky

[Spanky__99]

 

Future Blue Jays top pitching prospect Kumar Rocker had a solid outing.

Good time tonight tuning into the college World Series run. Future blue jays stud Austin Martin will be playing and current Blue Jays signee Philip Clarke, who just hit his 9th homer:

 

 

 

Grab everyone from Vanderbilt.

 

Future Jay top spect Kumar Rocker, we wish, lol. Godamn game isn't televised in Canada as per usual.

[Jonn]

I still will never understand why we get zero NCAA Baseball coverage. Plenty of time slots available this time of year as well

[glory]

I'm hoping TB works out a long-term contract with him, because if they don't we probably don't see him in the majors until mid-April of 2021. He's probably good enough to contribute next year at 19.

 

Since it's the Rays not only will Franco agree to an extension, but it will probably be a 6 year deal with 4 team options where his max earnings will be like $35 million.

[Spanky__99]

I still will never understand why we get zero NCAA Baseball coverage. Plenty of time slots available this time of year as well

 

And you'd think TSN would be all over that?

[Bobthe4th]

I still will never understand why we get zero NCAA Baseball coverage. Plenty of time slots available this time of year as well

 

They don’t do it randomly. Their research must show that not enough people would watch it to make a deal for the rights worthwhile.

[Ray]

Borucki: 3 perfect innings with 6K

 

Pardinho: 4IP 1H 3BB 5K

[BlueRocky]

Borucki: 3 perfect innings with 6K

 

Pardinho: 4IP 1H 3BB 5K

 

Absolutely filthy.

 

Orelvis Martinez with another double and walk.

 

Jhon Solarte off to a good start in Bluefield.

 

Gabriel Moreno continues to hit in Lansing.

 

Otto Lopez back in action and doing things

[Ray]

Absolutely filthy.

 

Orelvis Martinez with another double and walk.

 

Jhon Solarte off to a good start in Bluefield.

 

Gabriel Moreno continues to hit in Lansing.

 

Otto Lopez back in action and doing things

 

Moreno and Kirk have to be on the cusp of Top 100 talk. Hard to ignore younger for the league catchers hitting as well as they've been.

[Spanky__99]

Moreno and Kirk have to be on the cusp of Top 100 talk. Hard to ignore younger for the league catchers hitting as well as they've been.

 

Buck confirms this. ')

[BlueRocky]

Michael Smith (Canada): Hey Ben the Jays seem very quiet this international signing period! They usually always get at least one of the top 10 guys. Any idea why they seem so quiet this year ? Thank you

 

Ben Badler: They're going to be very active. Rikelvin de Castro, Robert Robertis, Estiven Machado, just to name a few, and there's more.

 

Dave (Vancouver): Where will the Blue Jays rank in farm system rankings after so many graduations (Vlad, Biggio, Thornton, Jansen)? Also, what have you heard on Jays catching prospect Gabriel Moreno? 19 year old, 154 wRC+ in A-ball with as many walks as strikeouts.

 

Ben Badler: Vladdy alone is going to drop them—the historical value of the No. 1 overall prospect in baseball is enormous—but that's still a strong system. Bichette, Pearson and Groshans are all top 50 guys, and there's depth behind them.

 

Ben Badler: On Moreno, athletic catcher with great hand-eye coordination. Sometimes that's to his own detriment, because he can put balls in play on pitches outside the strike zone, but he's tightening that up this year and showing more power than expected. Arrow up guy.

 

Fred Vincy (Illinois): Thanks for the perspective on this year's J2. Since we'll be waiting a bit for detailed coverage of this class, can you tell us which affiliate assignments for last year's class surprised you or seemed particularly meaningful?

 

Ben Badler: Alex De Jesus with the AZL Dodgers and Javier D'Orazio with the GCL Blue Jays. I thought they would both spend the year in the DSL. I never got to see De Jesus live, but it sounds like a really intriguing hit/power combo, with position TBD. On D'Orazio, no loud tools, but smart player, leader behind the plate type, probably not a high upside guy but may end up being more advanced than initially expected as an amateur.

 

more coming

[BlueRocky]

oh and for those that missed it:

 

[Ray]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Alek Manoah be a Top 100 guy next season if he has a strong debut.

[Spanky__99]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Alek Manoah be a Top 100 guy next season if he has a strong debut.

 

Next year in July, right?

[Ray]

Jhon Solarte also seems somewhat interesting. Switch hitting CF coming off a good season. Went 2-for-4 today.

[Ray]

Next year in July, right?

 

I'm thinking he could even be Top 100 as early as this offseason if he has a good debut. He wasn't that far off as it is, atleast on the Fangraphs Board last I checked.

[Krylian]

I'm thinking he could even be Top 100 as early as this offseason if he has a good debut. He wasn't that far off as it is, atleast on the Fangraphs Board last I checked.

 

I don't think we're going to see much of Manoah this season. Might make a couple of token appearances, but he already has 108.1 innings under his belt this year.

[Slade]

Got to commend this front office for actually finding good catching depth. I still remember the days where were looking at Guillermo Quiroz as our future catcher.

 

Seems there's a good catching prospect at every level. Even McGuire didn't look bad last year.

[BlueRocky]

Got to commend this front office for actually finding good catching depth. I still remember the days where were looking at Guillermo Quiroz as our future catcher.

 

Seems there's a good catching prospect at every level. Even McGuire didn't look bad last year.

Yeah no kidding, there’s at least one name at every level with intrigue.

 

MLB: Danny Jansen

AAA: Reese McGuire

AA: Riley Adams

A+: Alejandro Kirk

A: Gabriel Moreno

A-: Yorman Rodriguez

Rk: Javier D’Orazio

[P2F]

Joey Murray is good at throwing round things.

 

6 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 12 K

[P2F]

Bo Bichette is 2-2 so far with a double and a stolen base.

[BlueRocky]

I think we got a steal with Philip Clarke at no. 9, hope he signs. He’s batting cleanup and catching for the college World Series Vanderbilt team.

 

 

Also:

[Pendleton]

Joey Murray is good at throwing round things.

 

6 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 12 K

 

New Hampshire is lovely this time of year. He should be heading there soon.

[Krylian]

Joey Murray is good at throwing round things.

 

6 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 12 K

 

I saw a boob whiz by earlier. Guess it was him.

[THANOS]

Joey Murray is good at throwing round things.

 

6 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 12 K

 

He certainly is. I may have missed it but has anyone here posted about his stuff? Blue Rocky maybe?

[P2F]

He certainly is. I may have missed it but has anyone here posted about his stuff? Blue Rocky maybe?

 

Yes, he throws, like, 88-90 MPH, so he's not at all overpowering. He is, however, a very deceptive pitcher - hitters have a hard time picking up the ball out of his hand. I've read that he can really spin his curveball - roughly around 2700 RPM. He has a 2SFB, 4SFB, CB, and CH.

 

Here's a good write-up on him: https://futurebluejays.com/2019/04/26/fbj-scouting-notes-groshans-kirk-murray/

[43211234]

Only $25 if you want a personalized shoutout from Blue Jays legend Alek Manoah!

 

https://www.cameo.com/alek_manoah47

 

 

 

Edit: or you can pay Kevin Pillar $200 to see him sit in his car and talk over the radio!

https://www.cameo.com/kpillar11

 

Edit2: Really getting off track here but Evander Kane will be making 8 million dollars next year but he's willing to make video message for $1?

https://www.cameo.com/evander9kane

[BlueRocky]

He certainly is. I may have missed it but has anyone here posted about his stuff? Blue Rocky maybe?

 

I have to admit I’ve only seen him a handful of times, had to go back and compare some notes to make sure info was up to date. Joey is a really interesting pitcher for sure. P2F summarized it up pretty well, I’ll just reiterate a few things.

 

Joey Murray has been known to throw an “invisi-ball”, it’s a high spin rate (2400+ rpm) fastball with good movement paired with a deceptive delivery. The spin rate makes it just a tad harder for hitters to pick the laces and identify the pitch, but also it rises/elevates on occassion which generates whiffs. Hence it seems “invisible”. This is especially effective because Joey works extremely fast (Mark Buehrle-esque) and comes after hitters repeatedly.

 

He also has an unique delivery, ultra-high leg lift (like Thornton) but an extreme forward stride while releasing the ball last moment. I think he even deliberately hides the ball behind him. It adds to the deception when paired with how fast he works and the spin rate, while also shortening the distance from mound to plate. He also throws from a high slot. It’s a bit difficult to explain. It’s worked well for him since college, and he has always been a high K rate guy.

 

He’s a decent size at 6-2 but doesn’t throw high velo. His fastball generally sits 86-89 and touches 91. I have to emphasize he throws a lot of fastballs. But you’d be surprised he sits on a lot of 86-87s but the FB definitely plays up because of all the quirks in his delivery, I’m guessing the hitters feel the same pressure as a 92-93mph FB despite being high-80s.

 

Pitchers with lower velo tend to have less margin for error, when you miss spots it basically becomes a BP fastball. Guys that can’t get away with elite type stuff generally have to learn how to pitch, by mixing pitches very well, studying hitters, and have plus polish in their command to remain effective.

 

I hear his changeup has been much improved and has good velo separation, he’s polished it a lot in Lansing and commands it for strikes. The slider has good horizonal break and almost acts like a low-velo cutter. And he has a high rpm curveball which sits mid 70s. His goto secondary back in College and Vancouver was his slider, but now it’s more of a mix including the changeup and curve. If I had to loosely grade his pitches, his FB probably a 50 (45 velo, 60 command/movement), 55-60 slider, 55 curveball, 50 CU. (Might be a tad generous)

 

The change of speeds, the quirky delivery, the FB spin rates, and multiple secondaries make him a very effective strikeout guy despite the low FB velo. It’s just too bad he’s right handed, scouts would probably be higher on him if he’s a southpaw.

 

I wouldn’t exactly say Gaviglio, he’s more of a right-handed Buehrle. I honestly have no idea if his stuff will work in the MLB as a starter, probably why he dropped to 8th Rnd despite being very effective in college. He’s always induced a lot of K’s and never had much walk issues, which could mean BP as a plan B, maybe a long relief role. The improved CU also bodes well for his chances.

 

We’ll see what happens in double-A.

Edited June 27, 2019 by BlueRocky

[Brownie19]

Sounds like Estrada?

[Slade]

Alford back on the IL. Every time he has a little bit of success he gets hurt and derailed.

 

Pardhino and Maese prompted to Lansing.