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Teoscar is sucking 1000 dicks

 

Wow. With that many dicks on the go it's amazing that he can even manage the .400+ OPS that he currently has in Buffalo.

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Finally a write up on Rowley that's let's us know what his stuff is:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the-prospect-stock-watch-senzel-mcmahon-rowley/

 

"Chris Rowley, RHP, Blue Jays: Rowley — who will start for Toronto on Saturday in his MLB debut — has a fun little background. He was signed as an amateur free agent after graduating West Point to help fill a void on the Jays rookie squads after the 2013 draft. He appeared in nine games with three walks and 39 Ks (with a 1.10 ERA) in 32.2 innings before leaving baseball for two years to complete a commitment to the US military. He was excused from his five-year commitment early — to become an ambassador for the military — and had an unexpectedly-good season when he was pushed to high-A despite two years of rust.

 

Rowley produced a 3.49 ERA in 31 games (14 starts) and showed the same excellent control that he had in his debut. Moved up to double-A in 2017, the 26-year-old right-hander was at it again early in the year with outstanding numbers in 10 games (six starts). That pushed him to triple-A where he’s produced a 2.82 ERA with 15 walks and 41 Ks in 54.1 innings. All along the way he’s also produced above-average ground-ball rates.

 

The thing about Rowley, though, is that his stuff is modest. He relies on lots of movement, changing eye levels, excellent control and a ton of moxie. His heater sits in the upper-80s and works in the 87-91 mph range most of the time. He’s made 67 appearances in his pro career with 30 of those coming as a starter suggesting Toronto isn’t sold on him as a starter. The Jays need arms — badly. So Rowley is going to start in the Majors. He has value as a big league arm but it’s likely going to be as a reliever long term. The lack of fear and incredible makeup could help him become the next Luke Gregerson – a soft-tossing right-hander who can nonetheless become a decent high-leverage reliever despite the lack of mid-90s bullets."

 

Wouldn't it be nice to catch lightning in a bottle with this guy even he maxes out as a 4/5 SP

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87-91?pass.

 

On first view... yeah. Kinda makes you think he's got a Marco Estrada ceiling at best... but in his favour he throw way more ground balls.

 

4/5 probably isn't impossible. I don't think anyone is expecting the next Halladay

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If Burrows doesn't start Friday, he'll be going Saturday. If you're sticking around, I'd love to read a first-hand account from you of his stuff.

 

Change of plans. Going to the afternoon game on Sunday instead. I need a rainout tonight or tomorrow to get the SRF vs Burrows matchup. If not, I get Conner Greene for NH on Sunday.

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On first view... yeah. Kinda makes you think he's got a Marco Estrada ceiling at best... but in his favour he throw way more ground balls.

 

4/5 probably isn't impossible. I don't think anyone is expecting the next Halladay

 

Another Estrada would be awesome, given how he was signed and his history.

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Harold Ramirez 2.0

 

Except Ramirez never has played above AA. Hernandez showed some pretty good results in 112 PA at the MLB level last season, so seems like a higher floor on him.

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Another Estrada would be awesome, given how he was signed and his history.

 

That would be ceiling though... more likely result is the 4/5 or pen arm.

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Reese McGuire has some nice numbers now. .355 OBP

 

Also, DJ Davis 14 hits in his last 35 AB has something clicked?

 

I mean, it's more than likely that it's just SSS noise, but it's nice to dream on the thought that he may have figured something out.

 

Does anyone know if he's had a recent change in plate approach?

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On first view... yeah. Kinda makes you think he's got a Marco Estrada ceiling at best... but in his favour he throw way more ground balls.

 

4/5 probably isn't impossible. I don't think anyone is expecting the next Halladay

My problem is is that Estrada's are the exception. Usually soft tossers don't get it done. I like to play the odds. That's why I always prefer velocity over craftiness. If you have both, then you're Doc.

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My problem is is that Estrada's are the exception. Usually soft tossers don't get it done. I like to play the odds. That's why I always prefer velocity over craftiness. If you have both, then you're Doc.

 

Bear in mind I was never an Estrada fan even when he was getting good results for those 2 seasons. I generally don't like command/control guys either given they have such a small margin of error from being half decent to being complete trash as we saw this year.

 

However, given the jays situation on the mound right now and need for a retool, having the #5 spot filled by a league minimum earning guy from in house wouldn't be the worse situation to have.

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Bear in mind I was never an Estrada fan even when he was getting good results for those 2 seasons. I generally don't like command/control guys either given they have such a small margin of error from being half decent to being complete trash as we saw this year.

 

However, given the jays situation on the mound right now and need for a retool, having the #5 spot filled by a league minimum earning guy from in house wouldn't be the worse situation to have.

 

Oh. I understand you basically need warm bodies right now. I'm just looking from a long term piece standpoint.

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Oh. I understand you basically need warm bodies right now. I'm just looking from a long term piece standpoint.

 

Fair enough and Rowley is very unlikely to be any type of long term piece so I think we're on the same page here

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Bear in mind I was never an Estrada fan even when he was getting good results for those 2 seasons. I generally don't like command/control guys either given they have such a small margin of error from being half decent to being complete trash as we saw this year.

 

However, given the jays situation on the mound right now and need for a retool, having the #5 spot filled by a league minimum earning guy from in house wouldn't be the worse situation to have.

 

What I love about crafty over velo is that 1. they tend to last longer career-wise, and 2. have fewer injuries.

 

I don't have the science to back myself up, I just know it's true.

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What I love about crafty over velo is that 1. they tend to last longer career-wise, and 2. have fewer injuries.

 

I don't have the science to back myself up, I just know it's true.

 

I don't think you're going to find many people who agree with you. I think it actually tends to be the opposite, where hard throwers learn to be crafty vs crafty guys having their stuff play into their mid 30's.

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What I love about crafty over velo is that 1. they tend to last longer career-wise, and 2. have fewer injuries.

 

I don't have the science to back myself up, I just know it's true.

 

I hope you get to be the GM of the Yanks or Red Sox at some point.

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My problem is is that Estrada's are the exception. Usually soft tossers don't get it done. I like to play the odds. That's why I always prefer velocity over craftiness. If you have both, then you're Doc.

 

Doc wasn't really a fireballer, he sat at 91.2(vFA) for his career. I get what you're saying, just isn't a great example to me. :)

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