Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Krylian]

it's not a proven farm, bro

 

No farm is proven until they're not in the farm anymore.

[Krylian]

No, but all they did is trade a couple players to stock the farm. Their farm wasn't very good for the longest time. It's not like they've had some stocked farm system for some time, which is what he was refering to.

 

Step one. Be an aging team that is on the slide.

Step two. Adopt the philosophy that having a strong farm system is important.

Step three. Target players that can be moved for good future pieces.

Step four. Pull the trigger.

Step five. Invest and focus and drafting and signing international talent that is high level.

Step six. Be strategic in how you use the farm as assets going forward.

 

It can be argued that the Yankees have the first five steps covered. How they deal with the final one is up to their own philosophy.

 

They did

[admin]

Step one. Be an aging team that is on the slide.

Step two. Adopt the philosophy that having a strong farm system is important.

Step three. Target players that can be moved for good future pieces.

Step four. Pull the trigger.

Step five. Invest and focus and drafting and signing international talent that is high level.

Step six. Be strategic in how you use the farm as assets going forward.

 

It can be argued that the Yankees have the first five steps covered. How they deal with the final one is up to their own philosophy.

 

They did

 

They've had an aging team for a decade, this is probably the first time they actually did a fairly big sell and cashed in big time.

 

They did a great job of selling though, sold from a position of strength into a premium market to maximize their return. They could've rebuilded like the Reds did, which is a piss-poor excuse for a rebuild for what they did.

 

Amazing job.

[GD]

No farm is proven until they're not in the farm anymore.

 

thanks tips

[baseballsss]

No, but all they did is trade a couple players to stock the farm. Their farm wasn't very good for the longest time. It's not like they've had some stocked farm system for some time, which is what he was refering to.

 

Their farm wasn't bad before the trades. Wasn't stacked but they do have some good players down there.

[baseballsss]

No farm is proven until they're not in the farm anymore.

 

Whooooosh

[Krylian]

They've had an aging team for a decade, this is probably the first time they actually did a fairly big sell and cashed in big time.

 

They've generally been a competitive team for most seasons even though they were older...up until recently. And I think we're straying from the original comment, which was todd saying he doesn't want the Jays to turn into what the Yankees are now. If you really look at the state of the Yankees right now, they're going to be shedding a lot of money over the next couple of seasons. Couple that with the Farm System they now have and I think they'll be getting good pretty damn fast. I don't see this as a 5 year rebuild.

[Krylian]

And just for the record three maybe four years ago the blue jays HAD the best farm system

in the league.

Some of the prospects the jays have traded away are

Noah.S

Joe Musgrove

Jake Marsnick could have spelled his last name wrong

Matt Boyd

Gaudalope Chavez

Jairo Labourt

To name a few.

 

Hoffman, Norris, Desclafani, Dyson (basically just given away)...

[Melvin]

And just for the record three maybe four years ago the blue jays HAD the best farm system

in the league.

Some of the prospects the jays have traded away are

Noah.S

Joe Musgrove

Jake Marsnick could have spelled his last name wrong

Matt Boyd

Gaudalope Chavez

Jairo Labourt

To name a few.

 

One impact player. Thanks for coming out Todd!

[Captain Adama]

One impact player. Thanks for coming out Todd!

 

DeSclafani's pretty good. Musgrove has a decent chance to be a good starter as well

[Melvin]

DeSclafani's pretty good. Musgrove has a decent chance to be a good starter as well

 

Replacement level players generally do not fall under the impact player classification.

[Sorrow]

Replacement level players generally do not fall under the impact player classification.

 

3 fWAR/30 starts for DeSclafani is a pretty solid pitcher.

[GD]

Replacement level players generally do not fall under the impact player classification.

 

DeSclafani is like a solid #3 lol. Musgrove is probably really good.

[Melvin]

DeSclafani is like a solid #3 lol. Musgrove is probably really good.

 

I wasn't talking about Anthony, as he was not on the list that the beloved Todd posted. Musgrove is trash and will always be.

[GD]

I wasn't talking about Anthony, as he was not on the list that the beloved Todd posted. Musgrove is trash and will always be.

 

Okay, I'm ignoring Todd. Have you watched Musgrove? He's looked fantastic so far and has strong minor league numbers. Not sure what there isn't to like, passes the eye test and number test.

[Melvin]

Okay, I'm ignoring Todd. Have you watched Musgrove? He's looked fantastic so far and has strong minor league numbers. Not sure what there isn't to like, passes the eye test and number test.

 

Haven't watched much of him to be honest, could be totally wrong and he turns out to be a stud. He just never excited me much.

[GD]

Haven't watched much of him to be honest, could be totally wrong and he turns out to be a stud. He just never excited me much.

 

http://www.pitcherlist.com/blog/gif-breakdown/gif-breakdown-joe-musgroves-first-mlb-start-in-14-hd-gifs

[mikebel111]

SRF getting shelled in his outing today.

[Grant77]

I wasn't talking about Anthony, as he was not on the list that the beloved Todd posted. Musgrove is trash and will always be.

 

I don't know about that. I was a huge fan of his arsenal when we drafted him and I thought we sold low.

[Krylian]

SRF getting shelled in his outing today.

 

Tj.

[Caper]

Did I read the stat line right? Does Richard Urena have 3 triples tonight?

[Krylian]

Did I read the stat line right? Does Richard Urena have 3 triples tonight?

 

Not only that, but this is his 5th triple in his 7th game in New Hampshire.

[mikebel111]

John Harris

IP: 7 (complete game)

Hits: 4

ER: 2

BB: 1

K: 4

 

84 pitches (60 strikes)

 

He has been pretty good in Dunedin after his 1st start there.

[43211234]

Norberto Obeso on-base another 5 times tonight. Pretty bizarre that he's still in the GCL at 21. Maybe the org pegs him as a non-prospect?

[King]

Norberto Obeso on-base another 5 times tonight. Pretty bizarre that he's still in the GCL at 21. Maybe the org pegs him as a non-prospect?

 

You would think if they thought of him as a prospect he would at least be in Bluefield or Vancouver. If he's legit though he'll prove it eventually. Next season Vancouver or Bluefield for sure, and then full season ball when he's 23.

[Caper]

What ever happened to Mitch Nay?

[King]

What ever happened to Mitch Nay?

 

He's injured and hasn't played this season. But before that his raw power just never showed up in games.

[G-Snarls]

What ever happened to Mitch Nay?

 

Good question

 

He seems to have disappeared

[mikebel111]

Alford hits his 7th home run. Slowly his power is coming around it looks like

[Dr. Dinger]

Here's a new report on Urena:

 

Richard Urena

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[TD]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_101996.jpg[/TD]

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[TD=colspan: 2]Born: 02/26/1996 (Age: 20)[/TD]

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[TD]Bats: Switch[/TD]

[TD]Throws: Right[/TD]

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[TD]Height: 6' 0"[/TD]

[TD]Weight: 185[/TD]

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[TD=colspan: 2]Primary Position: SS[/TD]

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[TD=colspan: 2]Secondary Position:[/TD]

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[TD]Physical/Health[/TD]

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[TD]Medium frame, lean, slender body, evenly proportioned; still quite young, room to add additional muscle[/TD]

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[TD=class: header]Evaluator[/TD]

[TD]Steve Givarz[/TD]

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[TD=class: header]Report Date[/TD]

[TD]07/22/2016[/TD]

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[TD=class: header]Dates Seen[/TD]

[TD]6/23-6/25/2016, 6/27/2016[/TD]

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[TD=class: header]Affiliate[/TD]

[TD]Dunedin Blue Jays (High A, Blue Jays)[/TD]

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[TD=align: center]MLB ETA[/TD]

[TD=align: center]Risk Factor[/TD]

[TD=align: center]OFP[/TD]

[TD=align: center]Realistic Role[/TD]

[TD=align: center]Video[/TD]

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[TD]2018[/TD]

[TD]High[/TD]

[TD]55[/TD]

[TD]45: Utility Player[/TD]

[TD]No[/TD]

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[TD]Tool[/TD]

[TD=class: mid1, align: center]Future Grade[/TD]

[TD]Report[/TD]

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[TD]Hit[/TD]

[TD=class: mid, align: center]55[/TD]

[TD]Switch-hitter, hits from a tall, even stance, leg kick from both sides; above-average bat speed, good hands, slightly uphill bat path, fair loft; hand path gets longer from the RH side, can get big with swings from the left side and sell out for power; aggressive, attacks early, hunts fastballs[/TD]

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[TD]Power[/TD]

[TD=class: mid, align: center]40[/TD]

[TD]Below-average raw, lacks present physicality to drive the ball; generates some loft on balls with some present strength, modest projection for additional power down the road; in-game power should play near full utility[/TD]

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[TD]Baserunning/Speed[/TD]

[TD=class: mid, align: center]50[/TD]

[TD]Average runner, 4.32 home-to-first from right side, 4.21 from left[/TD]

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[TD]Glove[/TD]

[TD=class: mid, align: center]50[/TD]

[TD]Lacks body control, struggles with backhand at present, tries to circle balls to his right; quality reads, plays hops well, solid range in both directions, plays above speed; fair hands[/TD]

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[TD]Arm[/TD]

[TD=class: mid, align: center]60[/TD]

[TD]Plus arm strength, throws have good carry and strength; accuracy should improve, raw game speed, present mistakes from rushing[/TD]

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[TD]Overall[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]Urena has a major-league floor as a utility player due to a plus arm that will play all over the field and enough feel to hit to warrant regular at-bats. He is getting better at the plate and has shown similar progress defensively as the year has gone on, though there's still a long way to go if he's going to develop into an everyday player.

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