Laika Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Should he develop as a pen arm, I'd put a 6/6 on the FB/SL combo from the left side. I don't agree with this logic. Pitch grades shouldn't change based on role. I don't really get it. Also, I saw Perdomo for ten pitches and pegged him as a reliever. I should scout.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I don't agree with this logic. Pitch grades shouldn't change based on role. I don't really get it. Also, I saw Perdomo for ten pitches and pegged him as a reliever. I should scout. U should
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 I don't agree with this logic. Pitch grades shouldn't change based on role. I don't really get it. Also, I saw Perdomo for ten pitches and pegged him as a reliever. I should scout. Velocity is a thing. Some guys like Liam Hendriks see huge jumps in short spurts, some others don't.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2016 Posted July 12, 2016 Velocity is a thing. get the f*** out of here, no it isn't!
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2016 Author Posted July 12, 2016 Velocity is absolutely a thing. If you're going in for 1 inning you can give max effort this can mean 2-3 mph more jump on the FB. You don't really see Sanchez sitting 97-99 as a starter. Pretty sure you don't see Jesse Chavez sitting mud 90s as a starter either.
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Rob Fai @RobFaiNation 13s14 seconds ago @vancanadians about to get some serious help on the mound... Very excited. Zeuch?
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Rob Fai @RobFaiNation 13s14 seconds ago @vancanadians about to get some serious help on the mound... Very excited. Zeuch? The excitement would lead me to believe it's Zeuch, could it be Hansel or one of the older Bluefield arms?
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 The excitement would lead me to believe it's Zeuch, could it be Hansel or one of the older Bluefield arms? Zeuch, Zack Jackson, Luke Gillingham. Could be anyone
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 It'll be Zeuch. No reason to cum in your pants, like the tweet did, unless it's Zoik.
Caper Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Hey King. Can you give some kind of list of guys I should be looking at in the minors box-scores? Outside of say Tellez, Pompey, Alford and maybe a couple of others (oh yeah, Vlad Jr.), I don't even know the guys I should be checking up on.
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Hey King. Can you give some kind of list of guys I should be looking at in the minors box-scores? Outside of say Tellez, Pompey, Alford and maybe a couple of others (oh yeah, Vlad Jr.), I don't even know the guys I should be checking up on. Conner Greene/Rowdy Tellez - New Hampshire Francisco Rios/Sean Reid Foley/Richard Urena/Anthony Alford - Dunedin Jon Harris/Max Pentecost/Angel Perdomo/Ryan Borucki - Lansing Cavan Biggio/Justin Maese/JB Woodman/TJ Zeuch - Vancouver Jose Espada/Hansel Rodriguez/Vladimir Guerrero Jr/Reggie Pruitt/Edward Olivares - Bluefield Bo Bichette/DJ Daniels/Guad Chavez/Kevin Vicuna/Travis Hosterman - GCL Blue Jays I could go on, but thats a decent list. I guess
Caper Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Conner Greene/Rowdy Tellez - New Hampshire Francisco Rios/Sean Reid Foley/Richard Urena/Anthony Alford - Dunedin Jon Harris/Max Pentecost/Angel Perdomo/Ryan Borucki - Lansing Cavan Biggio/Justin Maese/JB Woodman/TJ Zeuch - Vancouver Jose Espada/Hansel Rodriguez/Vladimir Guerrero Jr/Reggie Pruitt/Edward Olivares - Bluefield Bo Bichette/DJ Daniels/Guad Chavez/Kevin Vicuna/Travis Hosterman - GCL Blue Jays I could go on, but thats a decent list. I guess Bichette looks good right now. He went 66 overall in the draft. If a redraft was held today, where does he go? (I'm basically asking was he a steal at 66).
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Bichette looks good right now. He went 66 overall in the draft. If a redraft was held today, where does he go? (I'm basically asking was he a steal at 66). Probably a similiar spot. It's too early to say if he was a steal or not, he's only ~50 PAs into his pro career. Ask again in 5 years
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 With that said.. it does look like a good pick. 3/4 today with a double. Guy can hit
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Can help but keep an eye on Obeso in the GCL too. Hitting .400 with an obp of .549 doesn't suck. He should probably be challenged with a higher level of ball given that he's 21, but only in his first year stateside
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 Can help but keep an eye on Obeso in the GCL too. Hitting .400 with an obp of .549 doesn't suck The only thing going against him is that he just turned 21 and he's still in the GCL. They need to start pushing him to see if they have anything there.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 The only thing going against him is that he just turned 21 and he's still in the GCL. They need to start pushing him to see if they have anything there. I ws editing my post when I saw your post. Agreed, he should be higher, at least to Vancouver to face some higher level college arms. But too say he's "still" in the GCL is a bit misleading since it's his first year in the US playing ball
IowaJay Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 King - sorry if already discussed...
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 King - sorry if already discussed... [ATTACH=CONFIG]1552[/ATTACH] Where in Iowa are you from?
wamco Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 How bout an update on the guys we gave up at the deadline last year. Seemed like more quantity than quality at the time outside of Norris and Hoffman.
bronson44 Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 How bout an update on the guys we gave up at the deadline last year. Seemed like more quantity than quality at the time outside of Norris and Hoffman. Sure, go ahead.
IowaJay Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Where in Iowa are you from? Council Bluffs.
Thaddeus Malice Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) It's probably too early to judge the prospects on some of those deals but hey why not. Gose for Travis looks like an absolute steal given what's happening in Detroit with Gose currently. It was already a steal before that. The Donaldson deal is a win no matter what. Graveman may be able to stick as a back end starter but he's looking pretty fringey. I haven't heard any news about Nolin since it was reported he might need surgery and the Athletics gave up on him pretty quickly. Barreto is the only prospect worth anything there and he's holding his own fairly well given he's a 20 year old in AA. I don't know what his defense has been at like at SS though, seems he's made a lot of errors and has played some 2B which would reduce his value a little if he can't stick at SS. From the Tulo trade Hoffman is looking pretty good. His FIP isn't great but I assume his xFIP is better and a more realistic reading of his performance. He's in the PCL which I assume is still a launching pad and his peripherals are fine. Good k rate, solid walk rate. This really needs its own sentence but if I'm not a complete idiot at reading then Jesus Tinoco gave up 37 hits in 13 innings A+ ball. Someone please feel free to correct me there because I don't think that's possible. I get the distinct sense that Miguel Castro's development may have been f***ed by the Jays and it seems to be continuing in Colorado. Brentz and Wells from the Lowe trade are not doing well. I doubt Wells is anything. Brentz is walking everyone but he's 21 so I guess he has some time to figure it out. Jimmy Cordero has just come back from injury this season. Alberto Tirado is either striking out or walking everyone and is also 21 just like Brentz. In what is becoming a consistent pattern Jairo Labourt is also walking everyone but he's doing while being 22 instead. I feel fairly confident in saying Matt Boyd sucks. I think Norris will do well. He looked good in his starts at AAA after being sent down and he should figure it out and be a solid 2-3 starter. I think that's it? None of it's too surprising. It's nice that most of the smaller pieces we dealt haven't blossomed this year. As expected the centerpieces in the all the major deals (Hoffman/Norris/Barreto) continue to look like the ones that will make the most impact down the line. Price deal aside I don't think we'll be regretting most of these deals though. Edited July 13, 2016 by Thaddeus Malice
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 I ws editing my post when I saw your post. Agreed, he should be higher, at least to Vancouver to face some higher level college arms. But too say he's "still" in the GCL is a bit misleading since it's his first year in the US playing ball I mean 'still' as in a low level of ball. Not that he's repeated anything.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 King - sorry if already discussed... [ATTACH=CONFIG]1552[/ATTACH] Nice to see you back! Matt's been fantastic this year, hoping he gets a shot at some point.
IowaJay Verified Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Article on Matt's season... http://jaysjournal.com/2016/07/13/blue-jays-reliever-matt-dermody-promoted-to-aaa-amid-dominant-2016/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Article on Matt's season... http://jaysjournal.com/2016/07/13/blue-jays-reliever-matt-dermody-promoted-to-aaa-amid-dominant-2016/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Welcome back man. Matts having a great year, we've talked about him a little bit would love to see him get the call. Only one step away now!
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Juan Kelly could be something... Bench guy
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