burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 A good front office can and player development make a difference on the margins but it probably can't help guys like Harris, an old college pitcher who doesn't have great raw stuff and isn't producing results despite the advanced experience. I know you're not saying that but this is gonna be a trend among fans if Sanchez continues to do well. We'll ignore everything we know about prospects and just use Sanchez to criticize sceptics of prospects who never produce results. I'm not saying a Good development program can turn crap talent into pieces but he did get drafted for a reason. So chances are the talent is in there. There's a strong liklihood Harris will fail, regardless of who develops him as thats the nature of the business. I think there is a much larged advantage to having a good development program than you are letting on though. There's a reason why some pitchers never succeed in some orgs and the Cardinals, Pirates and Indians keep producing MLB players.
Belliss101 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Richie Urena is having an excellent start of the season. Hopefully he keeps it up. 3-6 today, 1rbi, 1 bb, 0 k. Hopefully he gets the call to AA soon.
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Richie Urena is having an excellent start of the season. Hopefully he keeps it up. 3-6 today, 1rbi, 1 bb, 0 k. Hopefully he gets the call to AA soon. Too soon. It's been 8 games this season. High A to AA is a significant jump. I'd wait until mid June and then re evaluate where he's at.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I'm not saying a Good development program can turn crap talent into pieces but he did get drafted for a reason. So chances are the talent is in there. There's a strong liklihood Harris will fail, regardless of who develops him as thats the nature of the business. I think there is a much larged advantage to having a good development program than you are letting on though. There's a reason why some pitchers never succeed in some orgs and the Cardinals, Pirates and Indians keep producing MLB players. Lots of guys get drafted in the first round who don't even have half a sniff of the talent that warrants their draft position too though because of the idiotic nature of the MLB draft.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Richie Urena is having an excellent start of the season. Hopefully he keeps it up. 3-6 today, 1rbi, 1 bb, 0 k. Hopefully he gets the call to AA soon. How many walks?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 How many walks? 2 more than Kevin Pillar Same number as Russell Martin 1 less than Edwing.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 2 more than Kevin Pillar Same number as Russell Martin 1 less than Edwing. Martin and Edwin SSS. Pillar and Ureña are Adam Jones BB level
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 So sounds like Alford's knee injury is pretty serious according to Davidi's article. Apparently its to the same knee he already tore is ACL back in HS. Going to try to rehab it instead of the surgery for now.
Nafro Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 so sounds like alford's knee injury is pretty serious according to davidi's article. Apparently its to the same knee he already tore is acl back in hs. Going to try to rehab it instead of the surgery for now. ffs
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 Martin and Edwin SSS. Pillar and Ureña are Adam Jones BB level 2016 is a small sample size for everyone. Story is not going to hit 100 homers this year. Urena had bb% rates of 9.7%, 11.1%, and around 7% in his first 3 pro years. It's the last 2 seasons that's he's dropped to between 2-3%. My point? He's shown in the past that he's capable of having better plate discipline so we know it's in there.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 2016 is a small sample size for everyone. Story is not going to hit 100 homers this year. Urena had bb% rates of 9.7%, 11.1%, and around 7% in his first 3 pro years. It's the last 2 seasons that's he's dropped to between 2-3%. My point? He's shown in the past that he's capable of having better plate discipline so we know it's in there. That was before Richard discovered the dingers.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 That was before Richard discovered the dingers. Maturity could teach him to have both. Let's wait a little longer on him.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 2016 is a small sample size for everyone. Story is not going to hit 100 homers this year. Urena had bb% rates of 9.7%, 11.1%, and around 7% in his first 3 pro years. It's the last 2 seasons that's he's dropped to between 2-3%. My point? He's shown in the past that he's capable of having better plate discipline so we know it's in there. Walk rates mean nothing in the low minors. As you progress through the minors the pitching quality gets better and so you aren't going to get those walks off the pitchers who can't find the zone at all. Pretty sure even AA and AAA walks rates have a small correlation with BB rates in the Majors.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Maturity could teach him to have both. Let's wait a little longer on him. Nah. I'm dominican (smart-wise one), and I know what dominicans thinks about baseball/approach.
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Greene has been very disappointing so far. today 4.1ip 3H 2er 2bb 1k
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 Nah. I'm dominican (smart-wise one), and I know what dominicans thinks about baseball/approach. Not much? Just be flamboyant and anger easily?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Author Posted April 17, 2016 Greene has been very disappointing so far. today 4.1ip 3H 2er 2bb 1k Nothing to worry about. He'll be Sanchez in 3 years.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Pompey 2-3, 2BB, 0K, SB. OPS +900
King Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Pompey 2-3, 2BB, 0K, SB. OPS +900 Too little power
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Too little power He'll develop to a 10-15HR bat and will be hitting lead off within two years.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Pompey 2-3, 2BB, 0K, SB. OPS +900 Pompey's carrying forward the same approach he had last season in AA and AAA. Let's hope Atkins and Shapiro are watching this and eventually cut bait with Cola while calling up Dalton. vs LH: Pompey - LF Saunders - RF Bautista - 1B/DH Edwin - 1B/DH vs RH: Pompey - LF Bautista - RF Edwin - 1B Saunders - DH
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Option A: Pompey LF, Saunders DH, EE 1B. Option B: Saunders LF, EE DH, Smoakabello 1B. What's better?
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Pompey's carrying forward the same approach he had last season in AA and AAA. Let's hope Atkins and Shapiro are watching this and eventually cut bait with Cola while calling up Dalton. vs LH: Pompey - LF Saunders - RF Bautista - 1B/DH Edwin - 1B/DH vs RH: Pompey - LF Bautista - RF Edwin - 1B Saunders - DH I think I'd use Cola at 1B against Lefties then let Saunders or JB DH vs RHP. Give it another 3 weeks to see if Pompey can keep progressing and see what happens with Smoakbello. After that make changes.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Yeah, if Bautista won't be DH, then put Saunders there and Pompey in left. Kill two birds with one stone. Saunders is a better hitter than Smoakabello, and he can still play the outfield from time to time. Better use of a roster spot as well.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Pompey's carrying forward the same approach he had last season in AA and AAA. Let's hope Atkins and Shapiro are watching this and eventually cut bait with Cola while calling up Dalton. vs LH: Pompey - LF Saunders - RF Bautista - 1B/DH Edwin - 1B/DH vs RH: Pompey - LF Bautista - RF Edwin - 1B Saunders - DH They moved quicker on Pillar LO than I thought. They do this; dump Zeke for Ceciliani and i'm good. Nothing to bitch about, unless of course Gibby pulls another high leverage Leon ish move.
nmrch Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Too little power Its interesting, he seems to be changing his approach when playing in the bigs. The K's go way up which is expected, the walks go down but he also shows power potential, .165 iso in 146 PA's.
nmrch Verified Member Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Option A: Pompey LF, Saunders DH, EE 1B. Option B: Saunders LF, EE DH, Smoakabello 1B. What's better? Definately A, better defence and not much of a downgrade offensively, if at all. Steamer projects 93 wRC+ for Pompey, is that much worse than Smoakabello? Not to mention the value gained from freeing up a roster spot
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Yeah, if Bautista won't be DH, then put Saunders there and Pompey in left. Kill two birds with one stone. Saunders is a better hitter than Smoakabello, and he can still play the outfield from time to time. Better use of a roster spot as well. This is the best scenario moving forward. Colabello to AAA. Ceciliani would be an upgrade over Carrera, but management may want him to get everyday AB's in AAA for another few months. I think he's talented enough not to be sitting on the bench rotting, so playing ever day and staying sharp would be beneficial, as he would be the first called up if an outfielder goes down to an injury. In the interim, Lake would probably be an upgrade over Carrera at this point. At least he can be wasted as a pinch hitter vs a tough LHP late in games for Goins. Barney remains as the back up infielder.
nmrch Verified Member Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Tellez is quietly off to a pretty impressive start. The top line doesn't dazzle you but 3 K's in 39 plate appearances is pretty great. That and the 9 BB's and .180 iso suggest that he's just having BABIP problems.
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