GDT: Blue Jays @ White Sox 1/4 8:10pm - Godlike lefty vs. lefty killers

[bill]

Wilner defending Reyes again

[jays4life19]

Just checking in. LTR you let us down. 1 week ban i think is fair.

[ElNik2013]

To be clear, I ain't blaming Gibby for the loss. I just would've brought in a righty to face Abreu. Although, who knows who was even available.

[jaysfan2014]

Wilner defending Reyes again

 

Reyes doesn't deserve defense by anyone if he's not going to play decent defense.. or hit consistently. Next time the Jays have a lead, put Goins in late in games!

[AdamLindsMom]

[jaysfan2014]

To be clear, I ain't blaming Gibby for the loss. I just would've brought in a righty to face Abreu. Although, who knows who was even available.

 

Actually, that's a rational thought.. he is still the best hitter on the White Sox (and that's not saying much.. that team outside of Sale and Abreu is awful.) But if only Reyes had not made that error..

Actually, we would've still faced Eaton/Abreu/Cabrera in the next inning. And considering how they hit Buehrle late, they still likely walk off on us, as Buehrle ran out of gas by that point.

[jaysfan2014]

 

DFA this bum (Carrera)! Don't we have ANY OFs that have at least some baseball IQ?

[GD]

Wilner getting trolled hahaha

 

Witchcraft?

[ElNik2013]

2 things about Carrera not running to 2B on the final play of game:

 

1. it was a one-hop liner to SS. He was probably not sure if it would be caught in the air. If he had taken off on contact and doubled off at 1b, he might be getting criticized all the same.

 

2. The ball was hit hard by Valencia.

 

You combine the 2, it's possible it was one of those plays.

 

It does look bad, but if true that he gave up, he's not the only player on this team not to run hard on plays.

[jaysfan2014]

Yea...Pompey...but he's in the minors for some reason.

 

Because he didn't hit.. but at this point, it's time to bring him back. We can't afford to be pissing ABs away on Carrera, or playing Valencia at LF so much..

[jaysfan2014]

He is a damn rookie. He had a few bad weeks. Should have let him fight through it. Too bad we have by far the worst management in the league that is incapable to see logic.

 

Not by a mile do we have the worst management. There are worse management teams I can name.. AJ Preller in San Diego, RAJ in Philly, Jack Z in Seattle, whoever is on the Rockies, and of course the Marlins. And Kenny Williams in Chicago deserves some votes..

[thatoneguy]

Not by a mile do we have the worst management. There are worse management teams I can name.. AJ Preller in San Diego, RAJ in Philly, Jack Z in Seattle, whoever is on the Rockies, and of course the Marlins. And Kenny Williams in Chicago deserves some votes..

 

Diamondbacks.

[jaysfan2014]

He is a damn rookie. He had a few bad weeks. Should have let him fight through it. Too bad we have by far the worst management in the league that is incapable to see logic.

 

He needed more development time anyway. He should never have made the Opening Day roster.. more because the Jays couldn't find a decent OF option (remember we tried Viciedo in spring training?)

[jaysfan2014]

Diamondbacks.

 

Them too. I just don't understand what they're doing.. and why didn't they trade for Navarro? They desperately needed a catcher.. but he did get rid of that awful Trumbo deal, and Arroyo's contract.. but giving up a decent prospect hurts.

[Stangstag]

He is a damn rookie. He had a few bad weeks. Should have let him fight through it. Too bad we have by far the worst management in the league that is incapable to see logic.

 

The Pompey demotion was baffling. Especially since Saunders was injured.

[LTR]

The Pompey demotion was baffling. Especially since Saunders was injured.

 

Not sure if srs.

[LTR]

Hey Reyes, as long as in your own mind you think you got the ball, well that's all that really matters! #KeepSmilin'

 

http://andrewstoeten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/reyeserror-cws2.gif

[labadee]

Hey Reyes, as long as in your own mind you think you got the ball, well that's all that really matters! #KeepSmilin'

 

http://andrewstoeten.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/reyeserror-cws2.gif

 

That footwork

[flafson]

I don't know what you guys want with Reyes, he's all bat type of player. Back then AA's theory was to get as much offense as possible and screw the defense. His contract is too big to do anything with it...

 

Would you rather have Goins in there who is the exact opposite but cheaper version?

[glory]

I don't know what you guys want with Reyes, he's all bat type of player. Back then AA's theory was to get as much offense as possible and screw the defense. His contract is too big to do anything with it...

 

Would you rather have Goins in there who is the exact opposite but cheaper version?

 

Escobar or Hechavarria would be better options than Reyes.

[KingKat]

The best way to use Reyes is to put in a defensive replacement for him with it's tight and late. The best possible role for Goins is as a defensive replacement. Somehow in spite of having the personnel in place that dictates a very specific strategy, it's not happening. I know that managing egos is a huge part of baseball, a part that's often far too casually dismissed BUT.... at some point, you can't keep giving away games because you don't want to bruise any egos. The important thing is to do in a way that's respectful to the player. Explain the situation to the player beforehand, implement the change and then move on. If you're straight with him, he should get over it. It's a conversation that should have taken place in the off season.

[Deadpool]

The best way to use Reyes is to put in a defensive replacement for him with it's tight and late. The best possible role for Goins is as a defensive replacement. Somehow in spite of having the personnel in place that dictates a very specific strategy, it's not happening. I know that managing egos is a huge part of baseball, a part that's often far too casually dismissed BUT.... at some point, you can't keep giving away games because you don't want to bruise any egos.

 

Plus, IIRC, Reyes had an AB the previous half inning, meaning he was very unlikely to bat again in the game... 100% an ego thing, but at a point that has to matter less. (you are right, often too casually dismissed)

[KingKat]

Plus, IIRC, Reyes had an AB the previous half inning, meaning he was very unlikely to bat again in the game... 100% an ego thing, but at a point that has to matter less. (you are right, often too casually dismissed)

 

You could always spin it as an injury prevention thing. We're going to take you out after your last PA in most games to give you extra rest and keep you fresh. Don't ask his opinion. Don't criticize his play. Just straight-forwardly tell him what you're doing. Let him speak his piece. Let him be unhappy about it but in the end, just do it regardless of how he feels about it. He deserves to be told how he will be used but that's where the protecting of his ego should end.

Edited July 7, 2015 by KingKat

[burlingtonbandit]

The best way to use Reyes is to put in a defensive replacement for him with it's tight and late. The best possible role for Goins is as a defensive replacement. Somehow in spite of having the personnel in place that dictates a very specific strategy, it's not happening. I know that managing egos is a huge part of baseball, a part that's often far too casually dismissed BUT.... at some point, you can't keep giving away games because you don't want to bruise any egos. The important thing is to do in a way that's respectful to the player. Explain the situation to the player beforehand, implement the change and then move on. If you're straight with him, he should get over it. It's a conversation that should have taken place in the off season.

 

When players are interviewed (even Reyes) they talk about getting on base etc.. to help the team win games. You simply tell everyone that Reyes is being taken out to help the team win. If Reyes doesn't like it he can retire for all I care. Reyes went from -4 DRS to -6 after the game last night. Worst part about Reyes is he isn't even an above average hitter anymore.

[LTR]

I don't know what you guys want with Reyes, he's all bat type of player. Back then AA's theory was to get as much offense as possible and screw the defense. His contract is too big to do anything with it...

 

Would you rather have Goins in there who is the exact opposite but cheaper version?

 

88 wRC+ (all bat)

[LTR]

The best way to use Reyes is to put in a defensive replacement for him with it's tight and late. The best possible role for Goins is as a defensive replacement. Somehow in spite of having the personnel in place that dictates a very specific strategy, it's not happening. I know that managing egos is a huge part of baseball, a part that's often far too casually dismissed BUT.... at some point, you can't keep giving away games because you don't want to bruise any egos. The important thing is to do in a way that's respectful to the player. Explain the situation to the player beforehand, implement the change and then move on. If you're straight with him, he should get over it. It's a conversation that should have taken place in the off season.

 

Reminds me a little of when we had Rios and Wells in the OF and balls in the gap Rios would let Wells handle them even though Rios had a superior arm.

[HERPDERP]

But his bat isn't even that good anymore.

 

lol I was gonna rant on you but look at that...negative offensive value and positive defensive value.

 

Two weeks ago I remember checking and he was the on + side on both.

 

Either way, he's still better than Goins, especially on the basepaths.

[KingKat]

Reminds me a little of when we had Rios and Wells in the OF and balls in the gap Rios would let Wells handle them even though Rios had a superior arm.

 

And then the team extended Wells instead of handing CF to Rios.

[flafson]

88 wRC+ (all bat)

 

He's a career 106 wRC+.

[LTR]

He's a career 106 wRC+.

 

Why look at career numbers when a player is clearly declining? At least look at his projections... 99 wRC+ RoS w/ Steamer.

 

Average offensive player with above average BsR.