Statman Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Rangers vs. Blue Jays 1:07PM @ Rogers Centre TV: SNET Radio: SN590, Sirius 209 Starting Pitchers Chi Chi Gonzalez vs. Drew Hutchison http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/525x330/alt/592346.jpg Year W L ERA G GS SV IP SO WHIP 2015 Stats 2 2 2.27 5 5 0 35.2 11 1.09 MLB Career Stats 2 2 2.27 5 5 0 35.2 11 1.09 http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/525x330/571800.jpg Year W L ERA G GS SV IP SO WHIP 2015 Stats 7 1 5.33 15 15 0 82.2 73 1.43 MLB Career Stats 23 17 4.72 58 58 0 326.0 306 1.32 Lineups TBA GO JAYS!
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I'll freak out if Cola is in the lineup today
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Mods please delete. Dylan is our GDT man for today.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 f***ing AA...not only forcing super Gibby to play Navarro, but to hit him 5th to boot!
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Rangers: Choo Odor Fielder Beltre Moreland Andrus Gallo Martin Chirinos
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 So what exactly does the fat slob do better than Smoak? Hit Sac flys?
fireballW Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Dumb. Trading Navarro looks less important as our bullpen becomes more decent. We really don't need him at all. Probably better off with Thole up to catch Dickie
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Dumb. Trading Navarro looks less important as our bullpen becomes more decent. Decent isn't good enough, IMO. It still needs a boost if the means are reasonable. Probably better off with Thole up to catch Dickie I hate this option too.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I hate to say it but I think tyey have ruled out trading him. They never wanted to trade him. When Adam Lind said something negative about the organization, he was traded days later. When Navarro publicly asked to be traded, they kept him and play him at DH and catcher despite taking playing time away from a much better player. I have no doubt that no other team wanted him, especially if AA wanted actual talent in return, but if they wanted to dump him he would have been gone already. AA deserves all the blame on this one. I think so little of Gibbons that I'm not even going to blame him for doing stupid things. Take Navarro away from the roster and Gibbons would be forced to play the better players. AA keeping Navarro for as long as he has is the reason for this.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 ^ post of the week contender
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 The goal of this team should be to field the best lineup everyday when possible that gives you the best chance to win. Against righties, Smoak should be in there everyday over Navarro, no excuse. You can't be f***ing around when the team is in a race.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 The goal of this team should be to field the best lineup everyday when possible that gives you the best chance to win. Against righties, Smoak should be in there everyday over Navarro, no excuse. You can't be f***ing around when the team is in a race. Hey Gibby believes in his pure hitterism. Watch the way you talk about the best pure hitter on this team
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 They never wanted to trade him. When Adam Lind said something negative about the organization, he was traded days later. When Navarro publicly asked to be traded, they kept him and play him at DH and catcher despite taking playing time away from a much better player. I have no doubt that no other team wanted him, especially if AA wanted actual talent in return, but if they wanted to dump him he would have been gone already. AA deserves all the blame on this one. I think so little of Gibbons that I'm not even going to blame him for doing stupid things. Take Navarro away from the roster and Gibbons would be forced to play the better players. AA keeping Navarro for as long as he has is the reason for this. Here is the difference. Navarro was a free agent and Lind wasn't.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Hey Gibby believes in his pure hitterism. Watch the way you talk about the best pure hitter on this team Smoak: 0.5 WAR, 113 wRC+ Navarro: -0.1 WAR, 77 wRC+
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Smoak: 0.5 WAR, 113 wRC+ Navarro: -0.1 WAR, 77 wRC+ I didn't expect to be taken serious but okay
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 ^ Navarro does not have supporters on this board when it comes to DHing
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 ^ Navarro does not have supporters on this board when it comes to DHing You're a terrible poster
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 You're a terrible poster That is okay I dont posts in order to be considered a good poster and gain your approval. Thanks for the consideration though, Hopefully one day you will like my posts and we can be friends.
baloojayz Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 That is okay I dont posts in order to be considered a good poster and gain your approval. Thanks for the consideration though, Hopefully one day you will like my posts and we can be friends. Lol
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I didn't expect to be taken serious but okay I know, just stated the facts and how ignorant Gibby is. Not directed towards you.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Let's Go Blue Jays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Here is the difference. Navarro was a free agent and Lind wasn't. Excuse my stupidity, but I don't understand this point?
glory Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Smoak: 0.5 WAR, 113 wRC+ Navarro: -0.1 WAR, 77 wRC+ When you adjust for PCH (Professional Clutch Hitting), I believe Navarro's WAR jumps about 1 win. Fangraphs hasn't incorporated that into their data yet. Maybe someday.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Mods please delete. Dylan is our GDT man for today. Sorry you can't delete karma. I thought it was my day. I'm 1.5-0 now. I might retire undefeated but more likely I'll tempt fate again and do the first GDT after Beeston leaves.
nextyear Verified Member Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 ^ Navarro does not have supporters on this board when it comes to DHing I actually like seeing Navarro as a DH and even once or twice a week as the catcher. His batting is impressive. Most of the balls he hits are hit hard. For Navarro sake, he should get a good fitness trainer and lose about 20 - 25 pounds (it would help with his running and limit injuries to his legs). However, compared to Prince Fielder he doesn't look overly big.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 I actually like seeing Navarro as a DH and even once or twice a week as the catcher. His batting is impressive. Most of the balls he hits are hit hard. For Navarro sake, he should get a good fitness trainer and lose about 20 - 25 pounds (it would help with his running and limit injuries to his legs). However, compared to Prince Fielder he doesn't look overly big. I like your style. I need a 400 lbs guy to hang with me all the time so I can say to the ladies "in comparison..."
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