General Jays Discussion 2015

[GD]

That's not really a relevant comparison though. No one advocating trading a prospect of Russell's stature (considered top 2 by many at the time) because for one thing, the Jays don't have a prospect like that.

 

The general concept is the same. I just don't think it's smart to deal high-end young talent for half a year of a pitcher.

[KingKat]

The general concept is the same. I just don't think it's smart to deal high-end young talent for half a year of a pitcher.

 

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It's not just about the deal on paper. It's also about the place on the win curve and the opportunity cost of "not" making a move. Take the, admittedly tired, example Kent trade. He's had a better career than 99% of prospects in baseball. He was traded to the Mets for David Cone AFTER the non-waiver deadline and left as a free agent. There's isn't a Jays fan alive who would undo that trade even though it was one of the best offensive 2B in baseball for just about the smallest fraction of a season that you can obtain in these kinds of deal.

Edited June 19, 2015 by KingKat

[HERPDERP]

Anyone else want to hold off on bringing up Travis?

 

So far in only a few games he doesn't have a good line. Not sure how he looks or who he was facing.

 

4 games, 16 AB, 6 K's (3 last night), 0 walks, 2 hits, .000 SLG

[Sammy225]

Anyone else want to hold off on bringing up Travis?

 

So far in only a few games he doesn't have a good line. Not sure how he looks or who he was facing.

 

4 games, 16 AB, 6 K's (3 last night), 0 walks, 2 hits, .000 SLG

 

I think Buck was right last night you don't see live pitching for a month it will take him a bit to get it back. Leave him out past Tbay.

[RealAccountant]

Anyone else want to hold off on bringing up Travis?

 

So far in only a few games he doesn't have a good line. Not sure how he looks or who he was facing.

 

4 games, 16 AB, 6 K's (3 last night), 0 walks, 2 hits, .000 SLG

 

how can you have 2 hits and 0% slugging

[Sammy225]

Anyone else want to hold off on bringing up Travis?

 

So far in only a few games he doesn't have a good line. Not sure how he looks or who he was facing.

 

4 games, 16 AB, 6 K's (3 last night), 0 walks, 2 hits, .000 SLG

 

p.s its impossible to have .000 SLG when you have 2 hits lol

[pickoff22]

Maybe Beane is just an over-rated GM that surrounded himself with the right people.

 

If anyone else traded away Russell and Donaldson in the trades that he did, in the same year where he signed Billy Butler to a godforsaken 30/3 deal, they'd be ripped the f*** apart. It's actually surprising how little criticism he received for that abysmal 2014. Everybody just wrote it off because they think Beane has some sort of esoteric understanding of baseball that is far beyond any of us. Considering the fact that Donaldson, despite having four years left on his contract, was traded with payroll in mind, that Billy Butler signing is honestly one of the worst baseball transactions I've ever seen.

 

Fully agree with this.

[HERPDERP]

p.s its impossible to have .000 SLG when you have 2 hits lol

 

I derped

 

This whole time I thought slugging only included extra bases.

 

Mods, ban me pls.

[DuckDuckGose]

Devo's rehab so far;

 

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[Spanky99]

In todays Sun, Travis will be back Monday at the latest. -John Gibbons

[RealAccountant]

In todays Sun, Travis will be back Monday at the latest. -John Gibbons

 

So you are the last sun reader, we were wondering who that was.

[Spanky99]

So you are the last sun reader, we were wondering who that was.

 

Wat?

[RealAccountant]

Wat?

 

Never you mind.

[Spanky99]

Never you mind.

 

f*** off Robert.

[BigCecil]

I think Buck was right last night you don't see live pitching for a month it will take him a bit to get it back. Leave him out past Tbay.

 

we have the joy of facing Chris Archer coming up. Lets hope that isn't his first assignment at the dish lol

[Governator]

I think this is the first game Bautista will be playing the O's since he butchered his shoulder on the throw and his word exchange with Jones. I wonder what team will go for blood first. I hope neither.

[RealAccountant]

Lol the Orioles hangout community is actually pretty funny

 

This one is

 

 

LMAO

 

Its funny because its also sad and true

[KingKat]

Lol the Orioles hangout community is actually pretty funny

 

This one is

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1074[/ATTACH]

 

LMAO

 

Its funny because its also sad and true

 

Yeah that kind of good natured ribbing is fine. For one thing, we all know that it's based on reality. I don't have a problem with fans who engage in this. It's the grudge holding and paranoia. Maybe there's big convergence of Alex Jones listeners and Orioles fans. The kind of people who always think that something is up.

[DuckDuckGose]

Lol the Orioles hangout community is actually pretty funny

 

This one is

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1074[/ATTACH]

 

LMAO

 

Its funny because its also sad and true

 

Jays last WS 1993, Baltimore's last WS 1983.

[TwistedLogic]

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1074&d=1434738253

 

[Boxcar]

 

Please don't represent this fanbase elsewhere.

[KingKat]

Please don't represent this fanbase elsewhere.

 

[jaysfan2014]

Orioles and Jays lineups for 6/19--6 bench players for the O's? Two of them will be gone by next week.. Gausman's back tomorrow, Chen will be back by next series (Reimold, Lough and Snider are candidates for DFAs)

 

[Smokey]

 

In honour of Moogy...RIP

 

[Boxcar]

 

Could have sworn you complained about triple underlining jokes in the TV thread. That picture made me cringe.

[baubau]

Orioles and Jays lineups for 6/19--6 bench players for the O's? Two of them will be gone by next week.. Gausman's back tomorrow, Chen will be back by next series (Reimold, Lough and Snider are candidates for DFAs)

 

I'd be all over Snider if he gets DFA. Hitting at 96 wRC+, 10% BB. Would be great depth / bench piece.

[Inklink]

Why Navarrrooooo?

[DuckDuckGose]

I'd be all over Snider if he gets DFA. Hitting at 96 wRC+, 10% BB. Would be great depth / bench piece.

 

I'd love to get lunchbox back but with Pillar, Pompey and Saunders in the mix it's hard to justify a roster spot for him.

[burlingtonbandit]

Why Navarrrooooo?

 

must be hurting. He seems to be getting more days off than usual. Also could be getting the LH bat in the lineup since Wright has big platoon splits and Martin go tomorrow since he was going to sit one of the 2 games anyway.

[KingKat]

Could have sworn you complained about triple underlining jokes in the TV thread.

 

Seems odd that I would do that since I don't even know what that means.