General Jays Discussion 2015

[HERPDERP]

Is Loup still alive? Hasn't been used since July 31... lol

 

The fact that he wasn't used a single time against the lefties that the Yankees have just shows that he should be the one who deserve to go down

[LTR]

The fact that he wasn't used a single time against the lefties that the Yankees have just shows that he should be the one who deserve to go down

 

Wrong choice of words, but yeah.. he probably will.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Those are this years numbers. They do tell a story and if you have a problem with that it is yours.

 

Welcome to the board. As you can tell there are some posters who are total jerks to people who use the stats you mentioned especially in small samples like 20 games. These are the people who probably have a hard time talking baseball in real life to casual or more elderly fans. If you're not interested in spending 5-10 minutes to read about a few stats then a good portion of the posters will continue to be condescending to you, but you can ignore their posts.

 

As for the pitching, it has looked better since the break and I don't think anyone doubts that they have enough pitching to win the world series. If you look at the other teams in the AL who are contending none of them have really great pitching themselves. David Price with a few mid rotation starters is pretty good with an improved bullpen. If you look "on paper" the Jays have the best team in the American League and I don't think it's that close. Some people were mad about the Price trade but when you consider their window of opportunity here and the fact they place within the division so much down the stretch, it was a very good trade to make, I think you would agree.

[Sorrow]

Wrong choice of words, but yeah.. he probably will.

 

It really comes down to him or Schultz and frankly at this point I don't care which of the two it is, as long as someone goes down and an OF comes up.

[Frenchsoup]

Wrong choice of words, but yeah.. he probably will.

 

it's funny how he was one of Gibbons favs but Gibbons exposed him against RHH and put him in a bad spot.

[HERPDERP]

He's given up a bunch of homers to righties but against lefties he's still doing bad. Last year he had no problems with righties.

[glory]

Schultz can eat up innings in the likely event that Hutchison can't get past the 4th or 5th inning. Loup is a loogy.

 

The answer for who to send down is pretty simple.

[flafson]

We are more likely to need an extra arm than an extra outfielder, i'm fine with the way the team is currently setup.

If there is an emergency, Goins and Cola are almost decent enough.

[LTR]

it's funny how he was one of Gibbons favs but Gibbons exposed him against RHH and put him in a bad spot.

 

I'm in the group that believes Loup has been incredibly unlucky, but also I understand if the organization doesn't want to take a gamble on him at this point. The guy is responsible for us losing like 4-5 games (or so I recall).

[LTR]

He's given up a bunch of homers to righties but against lefties he's still doing bad. Last year he had no problems with righties.

 

1.64 1.99 FIP/xFIP says otherwise

[Governator]

Aaron Loup 24.0 % HR/FB

 

 

Sorry for your ultra bad luck, but your serving meatballs and need to go.

[LTR]

Aaron Loup 24.0 % HR/FB

 

 

Sorry for your ultra bad luck, but your serving meatballs and need to go.

 

1mph increase in velocity

10 K/9

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Meatballs

[Governator]

1mph increase in velocity

10 K/9

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Meatballs

 

 

If the tying run is at the plate, he is the last guy I want to see out of the pen pitching.

[LTR]

If the tying run is at the plate, he is the last guy I want to see out of the pen pitching.

 

I know I know, I'm just saying.

[Smokey]

I think DV was against being a bench piece and was let go because of that. He was only going to be a pinch hitter basically if he stayed. If DV was willing to be part of the race as a bench player he would still be on the team, but he probably feels that he needs to play because he has not contract for next year. Colabello is just happy to be on a team. DV wants to play ever

 

Damn, that was painful to read...

 

By the way, how does this theory explain why Navarro's still on the team?

[HERPDERP]

Ben Nicholson-Smith ‏@bnicholsonsmith 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario

AA: #BlueJays aren't expecting Devon Travis back before early September

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[Dick_Pole]

Welcome to the board. As you can tell there are some posters who are total jerks to people who use the stats you mentioned especially in small samples like 20 games. These are the people who probably have a hard time talking baseball in real life to casual or more elderly fans. If you're not interested in spending 5-10 minutes to read about a few stats then a good portion of the posters will continue to be condescending to you, but you can ignore their posts.

 

As for the pitching, it has looked better since the break and I don't think anyone doubts that they have enough pitching to win the world series. If you look at the other teams in the AL who are contending none of them have really great pitching themselves. David Price with a few mid rotation starters is pretty good with an improved bullpen. If you look "on paper" the Jays have the best team in the American League and I don't think it's that close. Some people were mad about the Price trade but when you consider their window of opportunity here and the fact they place within the division so much down the stretch, it was a very good trade to make, I think you would agree.

 

How would you react if someone started making an argument to keep RA Dickey next year because of the number of RBI he has this year? I agree there's a number of people who unfairly jump on people on this board, but all hell didn't break loose in this thread until he started talking about the George Bell FIP thing. There's really no coherent rebuttal you can create to that, thus the mockery and sarcastic posts.

[LTR]

Ben Nicholson-Smith ‏@bnicholsonsmith 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario

AA: #BlueJays aren't expecting Devon Travis back before early September

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That blows

[Dick_Pole]

Also it doesn't help that the title of this thread just screams jinx.

[HERPDERP]

Ben Nicholson-Smith ‏@bnicholsonsmith 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario

#BlueJays still eyeing 4th OF, SP per AA on @FAN590: "The chances of us adding an OF are significantly greater than adding a starter"

 

I guess this means that if they want Pompey up, he's going to be a full time OF or trade bait in off season.

[HERPDERP]

That blows

 

Have faith in Goins!

[LTR]

Have faith in Goins!

 

I like Goins but there's no question Travis is an upgrade

[SaskJaysFan_2]

If the tying run is at the plate, he is the last guy I want to see out of the pen pitching.

 

In a close game, I mean within 2-3 runs, I don't want him even standing up in the 'pen for a bathroom break.

[z3r0s]

At least Goins is damn fine to watch in the field. That's really too bad though.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I like Goins but there's no question Travis is an upgrade

 

Travis's fWAR is amazing. I like having Pennington on staff giving Travis as much time as he needs to heal properly to help us down the stretch. Trading Gose for Travis may be one of the best trades AA has made.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I like Goins but there's no question Travis is an upgrade

 

Goins can be a defensive sub for years. He's solid and since July 3rd his tweak in batting mechanics has allowed him to have some timely hitting. He's a valuable piece going forward.

[0ctobyte]

Also it doesn't help that the title of this thread just screams jinx.

 

Hey man, Jinxes aren't a real thing!

[Brownie19]

I like Goins but there's no question Travis is an upgrade

 

Thanks Captain Obvious, take a seat on the bench, you've earned it!

[KingKat]

Ben Nicholson-Smith ‏@bnicholsonsmith 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario

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Pennington trade pretty much signaled as much.

[LTR]

Thanks Captain Obvious, take a seat on the bench, you've earned it!

 

Lol... when HERPDERP said something so arbitrary as "Have faith in Goins! ^_^" I had to say something "obvious", no?