bronson44 Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/anthopoulos-blue-jays-have-pieces-to-make-a-move/ So who on the 25-man realistically could be traded that has value to other teams? I have a bad feeling Edwin may be a piece. AA seems like the kind of guy who would want maximum asset management. Shipping Edwin would allow a Smoak/Valencia/Portobello rotation in 1B/LF. I would think Travis or Osuna would be likely targets for other teams
flafson Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Wouldn't Collabelo have value though? He proved that he's MLB hitter, i don't see that changing though he doesn't have the pedigree of Edwin.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 I know everyone wants to give up guys like Portobello and Cecil for good talent, but thats not going to happen. If we're talking about 25-man roster guys, it has to be someone of value. Edwin fits the profile of a good trade candidate. He has 1 more year remaining on his contract, and he's still producing. We have a suitable replacement for him (obviously not as effective, though) and we are dealing from position of strength (offense). The only problem is to find a team that needs offense and can deal excess pitching. aaaaaaand I just realized one problem. Edwin gained his 10/5 rights a few weeks back. He'd have to OK the trade :/
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Is there any pitching contract out there that we can assume and swap with Reyes?
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 AA is not going to trade Edwin. Don't know if you've seen edwin hit lately
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 24s24 seconds ago #Padres considering whether to trade Upton, Kimbrel, Venable, others. My story: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/san-diego-padres-gm-a-j-preller-trade-justin-upton-craig-kimbrel-070715 … @FOXSports @MLBONFOX Totally forgot about the Padres. Add Cashner to that list too.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 lol Cliff Lee. I was so adamant on getting him.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 With Reyes s***** contact how much would you be willing to eat to get a decent return ?
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Rogers won't be eating any money. When they ate BJ Ryan that was the last time. This is well documented
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 As opposed to the Seven mill they are eating on Rickey, where is this documented?
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Is there any pitching contract out there that we can assume and swap with Reyes? Maybe a guy like Niese from the NYM.
Smokey Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 I know everyone wants to give up guys like Portobello and Cecil for good talent, but thats not going to happen. If we're talking about 25-man roster guys, it has to be someone of value. Edwin fits the profile of a good trade candidate. He has 1 more year remaining on his contract, and he's still producing. We have a suitable replacement for him (obviously not as effective, though) and we are dealing from position of strength (offense). The only problem is to find a team that needs offense and can deal excess pitching. I think the decision to trade Edwin ultimately comes down to the state of his health. His value isn't very high right now as he's having a hard time catching up to the inside FB and that could be directly related to the reported shoulder problems. If that's the case, I'd hold on to him and keep him off the field as much as possible. He could also just be regressing which would make trading him a lot easier but I doubt that is the case. If I had to trade players from the roster I'd look at moving guys like Pillar, Sanchez and Estrada before selling low on Edwin.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 As opposed to the Seven mill they are eating on Rickey, where is this documented? Blair's book
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Half to a third is what I think is fair also! Still means you sav 11-14 mill going forward as well? But you don't want to eat money but spend some, I wonder if la would be open to a Reyes, Navarro and PTBNL for grienke, Rollins deal? We would be taking on 9 mill and they get a upgrade at SS and backup catcher! Heck is they want Dickey and Thole instead of navarro that could be arranged too! Think the money is almost even then, but that route probably cost us a Hoff or Norris easily!
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 ^ Rogers is not going to eat salary That is not their MO. For Gods Sakes they made AA trade prospects to save $2M in penalty
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Half to a third is what I think is fair also! Still means you sav 11-14 mill going forward as well? But you don't want to eat money but spend some, I wonder if la would be open to a Reyes, Navarro and PTBNL for grienke, Rollins deal? We would be taking on 9 mill and they get a upgrade at SS and backup catcher! Heck is they want Dickey and Thole instead of navarro that could be arranged too! Think the money is almost even then, but that route probably cost us a Hoff or Norris easily! You're going to have to part with much more than that for Greinke.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Come on EE holds more value then that in trade! Again if I am trading him I am going package deal and riding myself of Reyes if I do! Seattle just seems be perfect trade partner here. EE and Reyes for Tiajuan and Carson smith plus one of there short stops! If they want Navarro they can have him too for pual fry ! If they need money, we sign the cheque now!
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Lol I missed that Reyes Navarro and PTBNL for Grienke Lmao
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 You're going to have to part with much more than that for Greinke. Why he can walk at years end?
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Why he can walk at years end? Lmao dodgers arent going to trade an ace while trying to win a WS. Even if they would they want something like Travis Osuna and Hoffman
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Lol I missed that Reyes Navarro and PTBNL for Grienke Lmao This was based on Money values not performance as an accountant do the math!
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 That plus we take on 9 mill to our pay roll and they get up grades at SS and catcher too!
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Why he can walk at years end? Because no one wants Reyes and his contract, Navarro is trash and a PTBNL is just a crap shoot. They aren't going to give up one of the best pitchers in the game for that terrible package.
LTR Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Because no one wants Reyes and his contract, Navarro is trash and a PTBNL is just a crap shoot. They aren't going to give up one of the best pitchers in the game for that terrible package. Why do people say Navarro is trash? That s*** gets old and it's just plain wrong. Navarro provided 4 WAR the last 2 seasons, and that is only 1.5 seasons. He's a pretty solid all around catcher with some deficiencies, obviously. He doesn't strike out much and has had a good bat (for a catcher) the last 3 seasons. I think he works well with the pitchers and is probably a good game caller. Also, I've seen much worse blocking from Martin (even w/o the KB).
flafson Verified Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Edwin wouldn't approve being traded, he wants to be here.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Edwin wouldn't approve being traded, he wants to be here. Does EE have a no trade clause even? Do you know this for sure?
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Because no one wants Reyes and his contract, Navarro is trash and a PTBNL is just a crap shoot. They aren't going to give up one of the best pitchers in the game for that terrible package. Hence the money, please try to keep up to speed! Lol
Governator Community Moderator Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Does EE have a no trade clause even? Do you know this for sure? Pretty sure it's the 10 & 5 rule he's referring to. 10 years in the majors, 5 years as a Jay, he can veto.
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