Matt Boyd stud thread

[Jimcanuck]

Sanchez does not have a #1 ceiling. Matt Boyd also has a higher floor than Sanchez.

 

Don't be so sure about Sanchez not having a #1 ceiling. #27 Baseball America, #25 Baseball Prospectus, #14 Sickels, despite much less than stellar MiLB stats, suggests otherwise. The stuff is there.

[43211234]

Why not? He has shown to be inconsistent at time but also consistent at time. The stuff is clearly there.

 

The stuff is not clearly there. His curveball is very inconsistent and doesn't fool batters often. He's a two pitch guy. Just because he throws hard doesn't mean he has ace potential. Joe Kelly throws harder and has a better breaking ball. Do you think he's a potential ace?

[Laika]

The stuff is not clearly there. His curveball is very inconsistent and doesn't fool batters often. He's a two pitch guy. Just because he throws hard doesn't mean he has ace potential. Joe Kelly throws harder and has a better breaking ball. Do you think he's a potential ace?

 

I'd probably put a #3/4 ceiling on Sanchez tbh. If he sticks in a rotation at all then it's a positive outcome.

 

Boyd might have a realistic ceiling = to Sanchez, actually.

[reedjohnsonfan]

If they trade Sanchez for one year of Latos my head will explode. Boyd or anyone else with mid-rotation 100% do it. Take 2 or 3 of those guys.

 

It shouldn't take Sanchez to land him unless we're way out of touch. Boyd maybe? I'd make that trade but hopefully they go after someone a little bit better than Latos.

[Jimcanuck]

The stuff is not clearly there. His curveball is very inconsistent and doesn't fool batters often. He's a two pitch guy. Just because he throws hard doesn't mean he has ace potential. Joe Kelly throws harder and has a better breaking ball. Do you think he's a potential ace?

 

Joe Kelly is in his prime. Sanchez has 5 years to go to hit his prime. Plenty of time for improvements. He's working on the changeup..... get 10 mph separation and deception and the K's will come.

[Atothe]

joe kelly is in his prime. sanchez has 5 years to go to hit his prime. Plenty of time for improvements. He's working on the changeup..... Get 10 mph separation and deception and the k's will come.

 

wat?

[Jimcanuck]

wat?

 

27-30 is prime for a pitcher??

[Atothe]

27-30 is prime for a pitcher??

 

not true

[Jimcanuck]

not true

 

Depends on which study you buy into.

 

Baseball Prospectus

 

Debut Age Peak(s)

0-22 26, 29

23 26

24 29

25 25, 29

26 27, 32

27 32

 

6 of the 9 peaks in the above are age 27 to 32

[Laika]

Trade targets:

 

Cueto

Hamels

Samardzija

Kazmir

Iwakuma

Kennedy

Leake

Haren

Latos

Lohse

Happ

Harang

 

Chapman

Benoit

Zeigler

Clippard

Papelbon

Grilli

K-Rod

Jim Johnson

Cotts

 

Sorted roughly by value/cost. Pick your favourites!

 

These are just the obvious ones, approaching FA on teams that could be out of it.

[BigCecil]

Good list NJH. thanks.

[Atothe]

Hamels or Kazmir please

[JuniorFelix]

Krod is my favorite reliever on the list. Would cost a fair chunk though as he is cheap with a very team-friendly option if i'm not mistaken.

[tercet]

Matt Boyd and flyballs.. who woulda thought

[Angrioter]

Boyd trade value going to s***

[tercet]

Boyd trade value going to s***

 

No, hes doing pretty much as expected.

 

Don't let one fluky start change your mind.

[Jimcanuck]

I'd probably put a #3/4 ceiling on Sanchez tbh. If he sticks in a rotation at all then it's a positive outcome.

 

Boyd might have a realistic ceiling = to Sanchez, actually.

 

Hilarious

[glory]

Yep, trade for someone. Don't care who it is. We need starters who can at least record an out.

[HERPDERP]

Yep, trade for someone. Don't care who it is. We need starters who can at least record an out.

 

Boyd is pitching because Sanchez is injured. He was never one to rely on in the first place.

[RealAccountant]

Any value Boyd had as a secondary prospect has been pretty much destroyed by this game

[baubau]

Any value Boyd had as a secondary prospect has been pretty much destroyed by this game

 

Yes, because GMs base a value of a player based on 2 games.

[Angrioter]

Yes, because GMs base a value of a player based on 2 games.

 

What?

 

Stewart, Amaro?

[baubau]

What?

 

Stewart, Amaro?

 

Touche. You win this round Ang! >_

[StroShow]

Yup. We turned Nolin into Donaldson.

 

Would've gotten Trout if not for Nolin's debut

[Mikeleelop]

Can op change the title of the thread to " Matt Boyd dud thread" ??

[Atothe]

Would've gotten Trout if not for Nolin's debut

 

or riggans was still there

[RealAccountant]

The Sox knew every pitch that was coming in that first inning. Boyd is tipping his pitches. If you think.GMs wont look at how badly he was destroyed well then you need to think again

[FrozenRopes]

Boyd tips his pitches. Can't they give the Hoff a shot or call up Chuck Norris?

[JFD]

OP spelled dud wrong.

[King]

Arden Zwelling ‏@ArdenZwelling 25s26 seconds ago

#BlueJays option Matt Boyd to Buffalo; DFA Todd Redmond

 

Barry Davis ‏@SNBarryDavis 22s22 seconds ago

Boyd to Buffalo. Redmond DFA'd. Corresponding moves made tomorrow. #bluejays