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John Lott ‏@LottOnBaseball 6m6 minutes ago

In Buffalo, mgr Gary Allenson says #BlueJays said to scratch Matt Boyd from start today and “back him off two days.” Jays need Sat. starter.

 

Seems more likely to be a trade

 

Why back off on calling him up?

 

lol

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John Lott ‏@LottOnBaseball 6m6 minutes ago

In Buffalo, mgr Gary Allenson says #BlueJays said to scratch Matt Boyd from start today and “back him off two days.” Jays need Sat. starter.

 

Seems more likely to be a trade

 

Why back off on calling him up?

Because they can't start him Thursday and then also on Saturday? Starters don't usually pitch on one day's rest.

 

It's probably not a coincidence that the Jays need a starter on Saturday and that's the point Lott made in his second sentence.

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I think a Cueto deal would involve a lot more than Boyd who would be at best the second piece

 

Also if Reds are shopping Cueto than they can prob get a better prospect from another team. So if the rumors are at all true who would be the first piece

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I don't think it's a trade with Cinci....They won't sell off until after the All-star game....which they host.
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I think a Cueto deal would involve a lot more than Boyd who would be at best the second piece

 

Also if Reds are shopping Cueto than they can prob get a better prospect from another team. So if the rumors are at all true who would be the first piece

 

Who knows. It screams spot start for Saturday's game and I just don't see AA doing a rental. Fun to imagine though.

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I think when Cincy trades Cueto, they will be able to get more,. Looking at other teams, I dont think the Jays have the major prospects required to land an Ace in return. A reliever or two is much more likely.
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I think when Cincy trades Cueto, they will be able to get more,. Looking at other teams, I dont think the Jays have the major prospects required to land an Ace in return. A reliever or two is much more likely.

 

It's for 2 months...not going to cost a s*** ton unless a GM is an idot

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I think when Cincy trades Cueto, they will be able to get more,. Looking at other teams, I dont think the Jays have the major prospects required to land an Ace in return. A reliever or two is much more likely.

 

likely true, but Cueto is a rental with a potential injury - so maybe his value won't be as high as Smardzja's was last year. If it is that high it likely puts Jays out of running to get him

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Sure unless he gets destroyed. Teams like to hide the prospects they want to trade in the minors. You have to be very confident he will be successful.

 

Yeah but the primary goal should be getting value out of him not necessarily trading him. If you can get value out of him by playing him, that's ideal.

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Would you give up Hoffman + Castro?

 

No. Not saying that wouldn't be the price, but I wouldn't be willing to part with that. The qualifying offer system has made rentals all the more expensive. Look at what Oakland gave up for Shark, Cincy is gonna want something comparable

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No. Not saying that wouldn't be the price, but I wouldn't be willing to part with that. The qualifying offer system has made rentals all the more expensive. Look at what Oakland gave up for Shark, Cincy is gonna want something comparable

 

plus what Oakland gave up last year, the Jays don't even have in the system.

 

Russell was a top 10 prospect who plays SS.

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plus what Oakland gave up last year, the Jays don't even have in the system.

 

Russell was a top 10 prospect who plays SS.

 

They got 1 and a half years of shark which is key. Also got Hammel who was pitching well at the time. The A's also got a lot back this off season for shark, it looks like a fine trade to me.

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They got 1 and a half years of shark which is key. Also got Hammel who was pitching well at the time. The A's also got a lot back this off season for shark, it looks like a fine trade to me.

 

s***, you're right. Mind drew a blank on that one, the extra year makes a massive difference.

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I wouldn't even give that up for Trout

 

Agree. Hoffman (2K/9) and Castro (RP ceiling) for Trout is a steal for the Angels.

 

DesClafani for Sanchez + Boyd

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I think when Cincy trades Cueto, they will be able to get more,. Looking at other teams, I dont think the Jays have the major prospects required to land an Ace in return. A reliever or two is much more likely.

 

I'm curious to what you would trade for Cueto?

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Would you give up Hoffman + Castro?

 

Not Hoffman + Castro for 2 months of Cueto, but if we get a contract extention I'd expand our end and get the deal done asap

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Not Hoffman + Castro for 2 months of Cueto, but if we get a contract extention I'd expand our end and get the deal done asap

Cueto isn't giving us any hometown discount though, so I don't know why the contract extension part is relevant to his value. Would you give up extra prospects for the opportunity to pay Johnny Cueto $140MM over 7 years?

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