Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 How many whiffs does Buerhle get? Heck how many hits does he give up? Heck how many strikeouts does he get? It's concerning. Phillies have no hits through 3, keep dissecting people you'll find something soon. If Sanchez had Buehrle's command then no one would be concerned about him. Buehrle is also not someone you should model your pitcher after, he's a unique case.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 If Sanchez had Buehrle's command then no one would be concerned about him. Buehrle is also not someone you should model your pitcher after, he's a unique case. Reminds me of this read from last year: http://grantland.com/features/mark-buehrle-surprising-success/
baubau Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Hamels is good. Why the hell are Phillies hogging all their stars instead of rebuilding......ffs
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Yup. Fister, Porcello, Alvarez to name a few BB/9 Fister - 1.73 Alvarez - 2.03 Porcello - 2.21 Sanchez - over 4
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 BB/9 Fister - 1.73 Alvarez - 2.03 Porcello - 2.21 Sanchez - over 4 Well if we were talking about BB/9 then the conversation wouldn't really have any legs, Sanchez' minor league stats are terrible in that regard. Very few examples of quality pitchers with BB/9 around the 4 mark. But the original question I was responding to was about strikeouts.
S33n Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 BB/9 Fister - 1.73 Alvarez - 2.03 Porcello - 2.21 Sanchez - over 4 SSS Sanchez 2014 MLB + 2015 ST BB/9 - 2.35 edit: with today's performance BB/9 - 2.28 over 51 1/3 IP
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 If Sanchez had Buehrle's command then no one would be concerned about him. Buehrle is also not someone you should model your pitcher after, he's a unique case. he's walked 4 batters in 18 and a 1/3 innings this year. Maybe he's turning a corner. He apparently had 8 swinging strikes in 61 pitches today which is 13.1%, but only struck out 2. In earlier games he had strike outs, but not enough swinging strikes. I'm most concerned with the walks. He hasn't been walking a lot of batters this spring or in his time in the majors last year.
S33n Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Interesting... They're trying Goins in the OF
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Interesting... They're trying Goins in the OF Dear lord
baubau Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I am wondering, how much has Hendricks pitched this spring training? I swore he was up a few times but cannot recall specifically. Anyone know?
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Wilner: "Trying to turn him into Ben Zobristy type" Lol what a moron
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Wilner: "Trying to turn him into Ben Zobristy type" God I even get annoyed reading Wilner. It's the perfect storm with him - the content of what he's saying and the tone of his voice irritate the hell out of me.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Wilner must have forgotten this one thing while comparing players. Zobrist can hit. Goins can not.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 SSS Sanchez 2014 MLB + 2015 ST BB/9 - 2.35 edit: with today's performance BB/9 - 2.28 over 51 1/3 IP You're right!! 99,999 IP +4.5BB/9 Vs 51 IP 2.3BB/9
S33n Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 You're right!! 99,999 IP +4.5BB/9 Vs 51 IP 2.3BB/9 Are you retarded? I clearly pointed out it was a SSS. There's nobody right or wrong, it's just stating a fact that I thought people may find interesting.
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 You're right!! 99,999 IP +4.5BB/9 Vs 51 IP 2.3BB/9 Well at least we know his arm is durable.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Are you retarded? I clearly pointed out it was a SSS. There's nobody right or wrong, it's just stating a fact that I thought people may find interesting. Do you think those 51 innings are a trend? NO. The regression will f*** your ass the coming 50 innings.
43211234 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Ryan "Zobrist" Goins doubles home a run.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Do you think those 51 innings are a trend? NO. The regression will f*** your ass the coming 50 innings. I think the only reasonable thing is to bet between you two.... I don't know if you want to bed CND or Pesos but i think it will end the fight lol
S33n Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Do you think those 51 innings are a trend? NO. The regression will f*** your ass the coming 50 innings. I didn't say anything about my thoughts or interpretation of the numbers. I saw your post then thought "hey I'd like to see what these numbers look like since he made his debut last season", calculated, then posted: "Hey this is a SSS but these are his numbers since this day", that's all.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I didn't say anything about my thoughts or interpretation of the numbers. I saw your post then thought "hey I'd like to see what his numbers look since he made his debut last season", calculated, then posted "Hey this is a SSS but these are his numbers since this day", that's all. Bullpen stats are very different to starter stats. Fastball over and over again Vs Wide repertoire.
S33n Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Bullpen stats are very different to starter stats. Fastball over and over again Vs Wide repertoire. I understand
guylaroche5 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 i'm sensing ryan "zobrist" goins turns into a new BJMB meme
King Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 i'm sensing ryan "zobrist" goins turns into a new BJMB meme Ryan Goins or......... Ben Zobrist, Darwin Barney, Roberto Alomar?
pickoff22 Verified Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Do you think those 51 innings are a trend? NO. The regression will f*** your ass the coming 50 innings. Curious how this works when a player "turns it around" over a significant sample size, but struggled in an area in the past. For example Russell Carleton has an article stating that 170 batters faced is considered a significant sample size for measuring a pitcher's walk rate. 51 innings would amount to over 170 batters faced. At what point does the most recent significant sample size become the most relevant?
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Sanchez pitches in to the 6th gives up 2 hits, 1 walk and no one is ever f***ing happy here.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Tolleson won 15 salary days with the last 2 games performance (Saunders spot)
Candy Maldonado Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Tolleson is our Zobrist.
Governator Community Moderator Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 So I'm guessing that didn't happen. http://i.imgur.com/Q2ZrDQt.png
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