Michael Saunders out until all-star break

[Gorlak]

I don't think AA will acquire any player that would come at a cost greater than Navarro. I imagine he will dig through other teams trash for depth, But this just pushed Pillar into a starter role. Although they will push Dirks to fill the gap.

[Orgfiller]

Navarro=free

Melky-14M or less

Saunders

 

Man I must be one poor bastard if 5 million dollars is basically free.

[glory]

Valencia in LF is pointless. Pillar is a better option than him.

 

My fear is Valencia in LF, Navarro at DH, and Edwin at 1B. Like I said, the way this team operated last season, they'll play video game lineups to avoid spending money.

[GD]

Edwin to LF

Smoak to 1B

Barton to DH

Navarro to closer

[reedjohnsonfan]

I like the Viciedo idea. He's not good but at least has some upside and is still young. Might be an OK stop gap.

[GD]

C Martin

1B Barton

2B Travis

SS Donaldson

3B Edwin

LF Reyes

CF Pompey

RF Bautista

DH Smoak

 

I was digging this lineup until I read "SS - Donaldson." If we had Lawrie, we could still move him to SS. Donaldsontradesucked.jpg

 

At least OF isn't a particularly difficult position to fill. If we REALLY have budget room like Beeston said, no reason not to trade for Shane Victorino. Or Allen Craig but eh.

[Muck Bartinez]

C Martin

1B Barton

2B Travis

SS Donaldson

3B Edwin

LF Reyes

CF Pompey

RF Bautista

DH Smoak

 

Why do I like the look of this?

[baloojayz]

C Martin

1B Barton

2B Travis

SS Donaldson

3B Edwin

LF Reyes

CF Pompey

RF Bautista

DH Smoak

 

Cool, too bad Gibby would never think of that.

[Angrioter]

C Martin

1B Barton

2B Travis

SS Donaldson

3B Edwin

LF Reyes

CF Pompey

RF Bautista

DH Smoak

 

lol Barton 1B over Collabelo?

[jaysblue]

@ShiDavidi: #BlueJays say Michael Saunders tore meniscus in knee. Out to all star break

 

What the hell did he do in ST to do this? Geez this guy is injury prone.

[Sorrow]

What the hell did he do in ST to do this? Geez this guy is injury prone.

 

Stepped on a sprinkler. Good chance his cleat caught and it caused his knee to do something funky.

[jaysblue]

WOW!

 

cf

 

Unacceptable if the condition in LF was like that.

[jaysblue]

lol Barton 1B over Collabelo?

 

Collabelo doesn't get on-base and only had two hot weeks last year and cooled off drastically. Barton gets on-base and has a glove!

[GD]

Barton league average hitter and elite 1B defender.

 

So what, 0 runs offense/run, 20 replacement, -7.5 1B. That's like, 1 win and change, so with defense.. Maybe a 2 win player?

[Angrioter]

Barton league average hitter and elite 1B defender.

 

Sarcasmo dominicano.

 

I really like Barton. Élite plate discipline and GG caliber defense.

[KingKat]

Unacceptable if the condition in LF was like that.

 

There's a photo ITT. Field looks pretty bad.

[jaysblue]

There's a photo ITT. Field looks pretty bad.

 

How the hell do they allow players to practice on a field like that? The front office should use their brains!!!!!!

[GD]

Or just download Steamer600 and lookup Barton's WAR to find 2.0.

 

Except that mental math took about 1.48 seconds. Steamer is useless!!!

[fatcowxlive]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[GD]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

who are you?

[fatcowxlive]

who are you?

 

Joonel Escobar

[GD]

Remember kids, Steamer is gospel!

 

Oh goody, another one who doesn't understand projections! Please, tell us more about the 15 players Steamer got very wrong last year and how it completely invalidates everything we believe about baseball.

[GD]

Not at all, I work in finance, and am very appreciative of projections. But some of you gents need to realize that there's a lot more to the game than projections and Steamer methodology.

 

If this is going to turn into a "watch the game!" debate, I'm pretty sure JFaS watches 90% more baseball than most of us.

[BTS]

Definitely not buying Barton as a 2-win player.

[L54]

Not at all, I work in finance, and am very appreciative of projections. But some of you gents need to realize that there's a lot more to the game than projections and Steamer methodology.

 

Why not use the best available data though?

[TwistedLogic]

Kyle Farnsworth

 

Is this a joke that I'm not supposed to understand?

[GD]

Definitely not buying Barton as a 2-win player.

 

He has a career 102 wRC+. 20 runs replacement. 0 runs offense. 0 runs defense. -7.5 positional adjustment for 1B. You're left with 12.5 runs. So he'd need to be a 7.5 win defender. That's a lot to ask, but it's certainly reasonable that he could approach 2 wins over a full season.

 

I mean, he has a career WAR/600 of a little over 2.

[GD]

Use the best available data and draw conclusions from it, not base your whole life's work (or in this case message board heroism) on trends found within.

 

If the board actually did that then we all would've gone f***ing nuts about not signing Johan Santana during last offseason when he was projected for like 3-4 wins.

[BTS]

He has a career 102 wRC+. 20 runs replacement. 0 runs offense. 0 runs defense. -7.5 positional adjustment for 1B. You're left with 12.5 runs. So he'd need to be a 7.5 win defender. That's a lot to ask, but it's certainly reasonable that he could approach 2 wins over a full season.

 

I mean, he has a career WAR/600 of a little over 2.

 

-12.5 positional adjustment for 1B. I think he gives you like 0.5-1 win over a season.

[Slugger]

Man I'm so disappointed.... I'm conflicted between blaming the FO for still being in that dump Dunedin, maybe Saunders for being fragile as glass, or the the grounds crew. So lame, at least when Maicer went down nobody gave a s*** seeing as Maicer is f***ing useless on or off the field but god damn, not Saunders

 

Yeah, that .330 OBP so f***in' useless.