BTS Community Moderator Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 If there was sound research that really clearly showed these recommendations were sound, we'd have it. Instead there is a lot of wishy washy articles and information out there. Starters are better conditioned than ever and throw less than any previous time in baseball but are getting hurt at exponentially greater numbers and people just go along with it. It's so dumbfounding. I think it's naive to believe that James Andrews is giving IP limit recommendations without supporting research.
vdubmvp Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I'm going to the Thursday and Saturday game. I don't like you.
King Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Donny Baarns @DonnyBaarns 13m13 minutes ago Josh Johnson faces 1 batter, than trainer comes to the mound, & Johnson walks off towards the clubhouse. He was hitting mid-80s w/FB. @milb
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Donny Baarns @DonnyBaarns 13m13 minutes ago Josh Johnson faces 1 batter, than trainer comes to the mound, & Johnson walks off towards the clubhouse. He was hitting mid-80s w/FB. @milb Dustin McGowan level
Trouba95 Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Donny Baarns @DonnyBaarns 13m13 minutes ago Josh Johnson faces 1 batter, than trainer comes to the mound, & Johnson walks off towards the clubhouse. He was hitting mid-80s w/FB. @milb You doing the GDT tomorrow?
Trekkie Verified Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Donny Baarns @DonnyBaarns 13m13 minutes ago Josh Johnson faces 1 batter, than trainer comes to the mound, & Johnson walks off towards the clubhouse. He was hitting mid-80s w/FB. @milb lol
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Donny Baarns @DonnyBaarns 13m13 minutes ago Josh Johnson faces 1 batter, than trainer comes to the mound, & Johnson walks off towards the clubhouse. He was hitting mid-80s w/FB. @milb Man, I loved Johnson (before he was a Jay, I was SUPER excited when we got him). It's so sad to see all the injuries, he could have been one of the all time greats.
fireballW Verified Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I think it's naive to believe that James Andrews is giving IP limit recommendations without supporting research. I think your belief about doctors being any different than any other profession is naive. You certainly believe the top positions in baseball are often held by people who don't use actual, informed research to make decisions.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I think your belief about doctors being any different than any other profession is naive. You certainly believe the top positions in baseball are often held by people who don't use actual, informed research to make decisions. So your stance here is actually: "f*** innings limits. Dr. James Andrews probably just pulls them out of his ass anyway"? This is a guy who has made a career doing groundbreaking work and largely dedicated his life to understanding the nature of these kinds of injuries.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 http://www.andrewsinstitute.com/AREI/ I'm sure these guys are all worthless.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 So your stance here is actually: "f*** innings limits. Dr. James Andrews probably just pulls them out of his ass anyway"? This is a guy who has made a career doing groundbreaking work and largely dedicated his life to understanding the nature of these kinds of injuries. Wouldn't it be better for Dr James Andrews if Harvey got injured again
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 http://www.andrewsinstitute.com/AREI/ I'm sure these guys are all worthless. You should donate
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Didn't they just help Stroman recover from an ACL tear like 3 months quicker than most people?
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Didn't they just help Stroman recover from an ACL tear like 3 months quicker than most people? That was Duke University Doctors.
bendera3 Verified Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I like the fact that Matt Harvey in jumping into the inning limit debate himself. He criticized a 6 man rotation earlier in the year, and then now he doesn't want to go over a 180 IP limit. I understand that he's looking out for his career but you complain that a 6 man rotation will limit your innings and your income potential and then later you complain that going over an inning limit could hamper your career.
Trouba95 Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Cards are so good. Now 87 wins on the year.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Mets should probably give Harvey a week or 2 off. If innings is such a big thing just pitch him out of the bullpen.
Trekkie Verified Member Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Brad Hand got his ass Handed to him.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Mets should probably give Harvey a week or 2 off. If innings is such a big thing just pitch him out of the bullpen. If you were a mets fan and nationals were breathing down your neck.would you agree
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Alejandro De Aza is hitting 4th for the Giants tonight.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Alejandro De Aza is hitting 4th for the Giants tonight. Wut
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 what a piece of crap Harvey is. wussing out of pitching, I can just imagine the mets Hey Matt, we need you to take the ball game 7 of the world series Harvey "No, I cant. Protecting my arm," I cant imagine a single mets fan cheering for him after this. If I am the mets, I would make him take the ball every 5th day, and sue Boras for attempting to coerce an employee to perform subpar using manipulation and bribery. Disgusting Stuff. Imagine the team that ends up giving the piece of crap a 7 year deal. Why would he focus on pitching again, all he clearly cares about is his money, and not the team winning.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 I bet if the Mets had just signed him to a 7-year deal he's shut down right now. His career is on the line, and the Mets have nothing invested in him long term. Good for him for forcing them to heed the medical advice he was given.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 And it's hilarious that this guy is getting crucified for caring more about money and personal success than team success. Of course he does. How many people would put their earning potential at risk because they care more about their company's success than their own? Nobody.
King Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Bartolo lol http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/09/06/14-415674-2015-09-05/web_cut/mlbtv_454032083_1200K.mp4
Masterbather Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 And it's hilarious that this guy is getting crucified for caring more about money and personal success than team success. Of course he does. How many people would put their earning potential at risk because they care more about their company's success than their own? Nobody. Isn't he still shilling for Qalcomm on nationally syndicated radio shows?
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Bartolo lol http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/09/06/14-415674-2015-09-05/web_cut/mlbtv_454032083_1200K.mp4 lol. brilliant. every time I see his portly figure on the mound I SMH. It amazing. He has been doing this for so long and somehow still even gets this done. I mean this man was part of a big EXPOS trade...that's how long. Edited September 6, 2015 by BigCecil
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