Blue Jays seeking replacement for Beeston

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Got shoes and know how to wear socks with em, can swill rum with investors and Rogers boys to get us the money and if I steal one of the Governators cigars I am set!

[burlingtonbandit]

Curious, if the target theoretically was Friedman or Zaidi would anyone on here give them a Hoffman/Pentecost for them?

[BTS]

Curious, if the target theoretically was Friedman or Zaidi would anyone on here give them a Hoffman/Pentecost for them?

 

Yes. At least Friedman. I'm confident that he can transform the entire organization from the President's spot.

[TwistedLogic]

Curious, if the target theoretically was Friedman or Zaidi would anyone on here give them a Hoffman/Pentecost for them?

 

I'm probably the biggest Hoffman fan and I'm probably nowhere near as high on Friedman as most of this forum, but I think I'd still make that trade in a heartbeat. Friedman probably gets you back the value you lost within the first week on the job, and the major league roster implications are immediate, whereas Hoffman, even optimistically, is probably two years away.

[JaysAllMighty]

CEO's are definitely not a dime a dozen and do require special talent. Having said that, doesn't make sense to give anything of value for DD.

 

Well go ahead, name the list of special talent.

 

Can they pitch? Can they hit? Can they field?

 

Lets hear it.

 

Like I said, CEO's are a dime a dozen, you can promote anyone to that level without having any experience at it.

[burlingtonbandit]

I'm probably the biggest Hoffman fan and I'm probably nowhere near as high on Friedman as most of this forum, but I think I'd still make that trade in a heartbeat. Friedman probably gets you back the value you lost within the first week on the job, and the major league roster implications are immediate, whereas Hoffman, even optimistically, is probably two years away.

 

Yeah same here. Friedman is just that good of a GM that what you give up is gained back in a trade. Look no further than the LA-Miami trade this year.

[StroShow]

Well go ahead, name the list of special talent.

 

Can they pitch? Can they hit? Can they field?

 

Lets hear it.

 

Like I said, CEO's are a dime a dozen, you can promote anyone to that level without having any experience at it.

 

That would be the difference between a regular CEO (Beeston) and a President of Baseball Operations (Epstein, Friedman). Sure, you can promote whoever you want, but there are guys that provide a more positive impact on the field.

[flafson]

Well go ahead, name the list of special talent.

 

Can they pitch? Can they hit? Can they field?

 

Lets hear it.

 

Like I said, CEO's are a dime a dozen, you can promote anyone to that level without having any experience at it.

 

It's like saying you can have 25 men roster filled with only Ryan Goins's, how would that turn out?

[Angrioter]

Jim Bowden

Just heard from a source that Dan Duquette’s move from Baltimore to Toronto is getting close and going to happen... but it is unconfirmed..

 

 

Goodbye Jeff "PTBNL" Hoffman

[King]

Jim Bowden

Just heard from a source that Dan Duquette’s move from Baltimore to Toronto is getting close and going to happen... but it is unconfirmed..

 

 

Goodbye Jeff "PTBNL" Hoffman

 

Welp

[Governator]

Jim Bowden

Just heard from a source that Dan Duquette’s move from Baltimore to Toronto is getting close and going to happen... but it is unconfirmed..

 

 

Goodbye Jeff "PTBNL" Hoffman

 

 

 

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[LongTimeReader]

Jim Bowden

Just heard from a source that Dan Duquette’s move from Baltimore to Toronto is getting close and going to happen... but it is unconfirmed..

 

 

Goodbye Jeff "PTBNL" Hoffman

 

What the f***. How many times are we going to hear totally contradicting information... what cluster f***.

[Pulk_Pull]

lol Bowden

 

When did we start buying into what he is saying? I believe him about as much as I do Beeston's best friend, Mr. McCown.

[LGBJ29]

Jim Bowden

Just heard from a source that Dan Duquette’s move from Baltimore to Toronto is getting close and going to happen... but it is unconfirmed..

 

 

Goodbye Jeff "PTBNL" Hoffman

 

No way we give up Hoffman. If Ed actually gives up Hoffman this f***in organization is f***ed

[flafson]

The compensation will be some B or C-level prospect...nothing that we're going to lose any sleep over I wouldn't think.

 

I would be pissed with a B prospect. Probably even upset with a C prospect.

[Angrioter]

Buster Olney ‏

If a TOR/Duquette deal is finished, compensation will be substantial. Jeff Hoffman discussed.

WFT

[Angrioter]

Jim Callis

Whoa. I'd take that for GM who wants to go. @Buster_ESPN: If TOR/Duquette deal finished, compensation substantial. Jeff Hoffman discussed.

[King]

WTF?

 

 

cf

[King]

This org is about to do something incredibly stupid

[baubau]

Dammit Ang, you jinxed it!

Please don't ruin a good offseason...

[LongTimeReader]

This is f***ed.

[Angrioter]

Chris Crawford

I'm not sure there's a single executive in baseball that'd be worth a healthy Jeff Hoffman.

[Angrioter]

Dan Szymborski ‏

I'd much rather have Jeff Hoffman than Dan Duquette. But I'd also rather have Dan Duquette than one of those awful retreads O's want.

[Governator]

Just because he's been discussed doesn't mean he's been offered.

[King]

Just because he's been discussed doesn't mean he's been offered.

 

Lets hope the discussion went something like this..

Orioles: "We want Jeff Hoffman"

Blue Jays: "NO."

[BlueJayWay]

Ed Rogers is the point man on this. Probably doesn't know who Jeff Hoffman is...

[guylaroche5]

Could be olney pushing his own agenda. I remember him writing an article of how executives should be worth premier prospects. With that said though I'm still terrified at the thought of what this FO is capable of.

[Angrioter]

Lets hope the discussion went something like this..

 

Orioles: "We want Jeff Hoffman"

Blue Jays: "NO."

Orioles: Smoral and Tirado?

Blue Jays: Deal!! (AA mind "Smoral and Tirado can't throw strikes. We won")

 

Smoral and Tirado top-100 prospects by the end of the year.

[Dr. Dinger]

Hell f***ing no to Hoffman. I'd rather give Cito the job.

[Angrioter]

Hoffman, Osuna, Smoral, Labourt, Pentecost we are in danger.

 

f*** Rogers!