fireballW Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I really think Happy is going to have a really good year and would have been a good starter for us this year. That being said, the trade saves us money and Saunders will be fun to watch. Needed someone over there who could play some defense. I think there will be a lot of casuals complaining by the end of the year though about Happy doing so well and that we traded him. Need to get some ST so we can put him out of mind.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Break up righties, get smoak some better pitches No... just no. Smoak is not that good of a hitter. He's not even top 6 in this lineup.
ineedsheet Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Break up righties, get smoak some better pitches what is the point of "breaking up righties" when smoak is worse at hitting right handed pitchers than any of those righties?
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Smoak,Norris and Ousana for Justin Morneau ? Discuss ?
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 ^ need to include Sanchez and Pompey in there to get a stud like Morneau
King Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Smoak,Norris and Ousana for Justin Morneau ? Discuss ? Nope.
ineedsheet Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Smoak,Norris and Ousana for Justin Morneau ? Discuss ? Osuna probably wouldn't get it done. Throw in stroman.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 ^ wow just wow! Lol
Thaddeus Malice Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Smoak,Norris and Ousana for Justin Morneau ? Discuss ? ... http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mike-woodson-knicks-win-it-all.jpg
Mikeleelop Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 No... just no. Smoak is not that good of a hitter. He's not even top 6 in this lineup. Okay
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 With Pitching which would you guys do for about the same money 5 years of Lester for $26 million per OR 7 years Scherzer at $28 million per. Instant shut down Ace of the staff. OR Both Andrew Miller and David Robertson for a combined 5 years $26 million. Set-up and Closer tandem would be the best in baseball with Cecil and Loup as a pretty lethal 7th inning tandem. Lester. We need a quality lefty in the rotation, aside from MB Not sure if he would play for Toronto. But 26mill per for 5 years.. That's a lot of dough.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 BIGBOUNCEYBLUEBALLZ Final Proposal Jays get Justin Morneau for Bautista, Stroman, Sanchez, Norris, Pompey, Pentacost, and AA's first born.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Smoak,Norris and Ousana for Justin Morneau ? Discuss ? You went fully opposite of your earlier proposals, BBBB! Every trade doesn't need to be centered around two players of the same position + prospects, either.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 BIGBOUNCEYBLUEBALLZ Final Proposal Jays get Justin Morneau for Bautista, Stroman, Sanchez, Norris, Pompey, Pentacost, and AA's first born. Give him a break. He's enjoying a rum or 10.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 what is the point of "breaking up righties" when smoak is worse at hitting right handed pitchers than any of those righties? Probably to get Donaldson Abs vs LHP where he is elite. I think Saunders would probably be the better guy to be moved up in the lineup though. (If you were to slide Donaldson to 6th and put a LHH at 5)
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Saunders' been on Sportsnet for 15 minutes, saying that him and his wife always felt that if they were ever to be traded, they'd want it to be to Toronto. http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/4e584a22eddc6c06410053e4.jpg Maple boner's getting pretty hard.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Smoak,Norris and Ousana for Justin Morneau ? Discuss ? Lol no. I wouldn't even do one of Norris/Osuna for Morneau at this point.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Saunders' been on Sportsnet for 15 minutes, saying that him and his wife always felt that if they were ever to be traded, they'd want it to be to Toronto. http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/4e584a22eddc6c06410053e4.jpg Maple boner's getting pretty hard. Fan590?
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Fan590? Yeah, the interview just ended, I'm sure they'll have it uploaded to their on-demand section soon. Edit: And by soon I mean literally right away I guess: http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/sportsnet-tonight/saunders-relishes-opportunity-with-the-jays/
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Lol no. I wouldn't even do one of Norris/Osuna for Morneau at this point. Well.. I mean I probably wouldn't say no to a straight up Osuna for Morneau trade right away.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Well.. I mean I probably wouldn't say no to a straight up Osuna for Morneau trade right away. Yeah, the interview is over, I'm sure they'll have it uploaded to their on-demand section soon. Got it. It's on demand now on sportsnet. Thanks! Listening now!
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Well.. I mean I probably wouldn't say no to a straight up Osuna for Morneau trade right away. Haha true. But when you think about it, we really don't need Morneau. The offence is damn good as-is, and Osuna is more important to this team. Plus Morneau costs more money which would cut into our James Shields/Jon Lester funds
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Got it. It's on demand now on sportsnet. Thanks! Listening now! Seems like a funny, genuinely good dude.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I wish they had traded Estrada instead of Happ. Though this trade makes a lot of sense.
43211234 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Did anyone post keith law's article on the trade + Markakis signing? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/post?id=3007&ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_Law_MarkakisReaction
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Not to late to move Estrada surely some teams view him as a starter. Maybe we can package him with Navarro and get a decent return. Not sure you want to move that SP depth unless you can sign another starter.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Did anyone post keith law's article on the trade + Markakis signing? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/post?id=3007&ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_Law_MarkakisReaction Anyone else feel Law has moved way down on the depth chart of baseball writers? I barely even follow his opinion anymore. Id take all the Fangraphs writers over him easily and Jonah Keri as well.
43211234 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Always saw him more of a prospect guy. But if he doesn't like someone for whatever reason he really doesn't like them. For example he s*** on Travis while many others love him. Law called him a nothing prospect. Hes also famous for calling Bautista a flash in the pan and should trade him for whatever you can get now back in 2010. He went on the radio week after week with Bob McCowan s***ing on Bautista while his numbers kept going up. Law is never on PTS anymore. And he use to be on the show a couple times a week. That's because TSN radio is a thing now. ESPN guys don't go on Sportsnet
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Man, I'm having a lot of schadenfreude-fuelled fun reading the Mariners' fans thread about this trade. I haven't interacted with M's fans much in the past, but these guys over at LookoutLanding seem both pretty classy and pretty witty, despite being furious about the trade. Most of them are wishing that Saunders rakes in Toronto just so he can rub it in Jack Z's face. Also a product of that thread, probably one of the greatest baseball-related comments of all time: http://i.gyazo.com/f5e3262c79064fbb27df4517179c37e3.png If you're confused, the first and third instances of "bird" in that sentence are in reference to Saunders, who's known endearingly to M's fans by the nickname "The Condor", which is a form of vulture or some s*** like that. Edited December 4, 2014 by TwistedLogic
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Some of the better comments I founds skimming through: http://i.gyazo.com/6bd9216a30f928b0752c028a8b38216c.png http://i.gyazo.com/3335e21ecf97564889a9045558b729d0.png http://i.gyazo.com/a3ff3c95d0aab3b63c1f89067918e80d.png http://i.gyazo.com/a2d85b2c6980697e71c9d40507a025dc.png http://i.gyazo.com/cd8aca4b89f5c2f786f9ee3f1d43bfc4.png http://i.gyazo.com/748004fa08efa06da1bbed98859bcaa0.png http://i.gyazo.com/128474b0f66a1fff106e43ab1ea0359e.png http://i.gyazo.com/af3994080eb10b6a4462ad406f44b96c.png http://i.imgur.com/py2PxcN.gif
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