Your 1 to 5 batting order

[burlingtonbandit]

Maybe we can package him in a trade or something. Pay half the salary maybe

 

I would ship him off with Navarro for just salary relief if it came to that. I feel like the team wanting Navarro doesn't want to pay his full salary and that is why a trade hasn't happened yet. Navarro really doesn't have a place on this team even as a backup.

[fireballW]

I like the defense that Goins brings.

 

Fair enough but you should still wait to make sure Izturis isn't going to make the team before cutting him. What if Goins gets injured in spring training? There is no benefit to dropping him for at least a couple months.

[fireballW]

I would ship him off with Navarro for just salary relief if it came to that. I feel like the team wanting Navarro doesn't want to pay his full salary and that is why a trade hasn't happened yet. Navarro really doesn't have a place on this team even as a backup.

 

I think most teams that need a catcher wouldn't really have a problem with his salary.

[ineedsheet]

I said that the switch is beneficial for really s***** 9 hitters right in the post? The numbers don't really benefit AL teams, and the switch should only be used for below average hitting pitchers

 

i think you failed to contextualize the idea behind the concept. imo you are right for the most part, but in certain situations it's different.

 

for instance, a "poor hitter" is a very relative term. yes to a team like the mets, bartolo colon is so bad he should probably be batting 8th. but really, isn't a hitter like goins' relative offense vs the rest of the BLUE JAYS offense similar to a pitcher in the AL? jays line up is really really good, probably the best in baseball. goins is really really bad.

 

for a polarized team like the jays (where several of their hitters are VERY good and a few are VERY bad), goins is essentially a pitcher relative to the rest of the lineup despite probably being better than the average hitting pitcher

 

in this scenario, i dont think its simply "yes and no" for the 8/9 swap.

 

i think there is an argument to be made for our worst hitter to hit 8th, as i feel he will be significantly worse than our 8th best hitter.

 

note i am not really taking a side on either side of this issue, just noting that it is worth discussing and not simply dismissing like you seem to be doing

Edited December 4, 2014 by ineedsheet

[ineedsheet]

v R

 

reyes

bautista

donaldson

EE

saunders

martin

smoak

pompey

2bman

 

 

v L

 

bautista

donaldson

EE

valencia

reyes

martin

saunders

pompey

goins

 

 

---

 

will never happen obv

[Mikeleelop]

v R

 

reyes

bautista

donaldson

EE

saunders

martin

smoak

pompey

2bman

 

 

v L

 

bautista

donaldson

EE

valencia

reyes

martin

saunders

pompey

goins

 

 

---

 

will never happen obv

 

goins bats LH

[intentional wok]

v R

 

reyes

bautista

donaldson

EE

saunders

martin

smoak

pompey

2bman

 

 

v L

 

bautista

donaldson

EE

valencia

reyes

martin

saunders

pompey

goins

 

 

---

 

will never happen obv

 

Your RH lineup is plausible with a Donaldson and Bautista swap, I think (though I suppose the 2-3 setup is the whole point of it). LH has no chance, though I immediately dig the Smoak-Valencia platoon. I somehow keep forgetting about Danny in all of this.

[Stangstag]

v R

 

reyes

pompey

bautista

EE

martin

saunders

donaldson

smoak

izturis

 

 

 

v L

 

Reyes

martin

donaldson

bautista

EE

smoak

pillar

izturis

pompey

 

Lowrie would make that s*** purrrrrrr.

 

navarro

izzy

pillar

Valencia

 

would probably be the best bench we've seen in a long time. 5-6 switch hitters is just sick.

 

Saunders actually hit LHP pretty well last year. His splits are pretty even. I'd rather have him playing everyday until he shows that he can't hit LHP

[ineedsheet]

Saunders actually hit LHP pretty well last year. His splits are pretty even. I'd rather have him playing everyday until he shows that he can't hit LHP

 

i was thinking the same, but then maybe thought giving saunders alot of rest + the fact that i think his bat will provide more value off the bench against lefties, as we will be short LHB on those days

 

lol dunno why i brainfarted the goins thing

[LGBJ29]

Just like Donaldson can still hit Righties fine. I definitely don't want him hitting 7th

[JugglingPitches]

Sounds like parenting and baseball are not your thing.

 

Sounds like you don't have children. Not surprising, I doubt any female would be willing to spread her legs for you, much less allow you to father their babies. I'm sure the closest thing you've had to sexual relations in the past three to four years was gliding the barrel end of a Louisville Slugger inside your rectum, and I'm sorry to tell you the ensuing bowel movement forced through pine tar does not count as child birth so you remain desperate and alone in your studio apartment or your parents' basement, I'm not sure which.

 

Maybe you could tell everyone here what my first name is in real life. Of course, that's an empty request because you can't. You literally don't know the first thing about me but I bet I could tell you a whole lot about yourself, you chronic masturbator, you. People like you pay for a ticket to a Jays game but end up paying more attention to the bimbo cheerleaders dancing on top of the dugout between innings, all of whom will play a sick role in your evening sessions with the hand cream and the box of tissues for the next week. Reality is you probably don't even have a chance with the fat chick in the non-flattering "Blue Jays, '92 World Series Champs" sweater with the ketchup stains on it deep throating a ballpark frank and reaching for her extra large Pepsi.

 

For someone with a name like "ScientificReason" you might try accumulating evidence of some sort before making grand assumptions about someone's personal life based on a casual post on a baseball message board.

[LongTimeReader]

^Ban. There's no need for this kind of BS.

[ScientificReason]

Sounds like you don't have children. Not surprising, I doubt any female would be willing to spread her legs for you, much less allow you to father their babies. I'm sure the closest thing you've had to sexual relations in the past three to four years was gliding the barrel end of a Louisville Slugger inside your rectum, and I'm sorry to tell you the ensuing bowel movement forced through pine tar does not count as child birth so you remain desperate and alone in your studio apartment or your parents' basement, I'm not sure which.

 

Maybe you could tell everyone here what my first name is in real life. Of course, that's an empty request because you can't. You literally don't know the first thing about me but I bet I could tell you a whole lot about yourself, you chronic masturbator, you. People like you pay for a ticket to a Jays game but end up paying more attention to the bimbo cheerleaders dancing on top of the dugout between innings, all of whom will play a sick role in your evening sessions with the hand cream and the box of tissues for the next week. Reality is you probably don't even have a chance with the fat chick in the non-flattering "Blue Jays, '92 World Series Champs" sweater with the ketchup stains on it deep throating a ballpark frank and reaching for her extra large Pepsi.

 

For someone with a name like "ScientificReason" you might try accumulating evidence of some sort before making grand assumptions about someone's personal life based on a casual post on a baseball message board.

 

It was a joke LMAO. Take some pills and calm down, and yes I do have children. get a grip man. Your argument was I dont know anything about you, then you go on to make stuff up about me...you don;t know nothing about me either herp derp. You sound mentally unstable dude, unplug. No one wants to read this garbage on here.

[Stangstag]

Yup this guy should be banned

[L54]

People shouldn't bring parenting to the BJMB. Leave that s*** out. Guys can handle personal attacks (well, sometimes) but don't bring someone's children into the equation.

[G-Snarls]

People shouldn't bring parenting to the BJMB. Leave that s*** out. Guys can handle personal attacks (well, sometimes) but don't bring someone's children into the equation.

 

Agree

 

Went way too far

[LongTimeReader]

Btw, is JugglingPitches Moogy's raging alter ego?

[LongTimeReader]

JugglingPitches existed before Moogy did I believe. His name is in honour of JPA.

 

Ahh, nevertheless could be a former account. Pretty convenient when an "old" account shows up after someone gets banned.

[KingKat]

Ahh, nevertheless could be a former account. Pretty convenient when an "old" account shows up after someone gets banned.

 

Or he might just be some random raging *******. If it's Moogy, it's a very different persona to say the least.

[Stangstag]

People shouldn't bring parenting to the BJMB. Leave that s*** out. Guys can handle personal attacks (well, sometimes) but don't bring someone's children into the equation.

 

He was the one who started mentioning his kids.

 

This all started because he said Martin should bat 9th and I told him that idea is beyond retarded. Then he started with the crazy insults and s*** went downhill.

 

Mods should look through this thread and see some of his posts

[raBBit]

I'll try and get this thread back on topic.

 

I am happy for all you Jays' fans. It's been quite an offseason for AA at this point and the team is looking great.

 

SS Reyes

C Martin

RF Bautista

1B/DH Encarnacion

3B Donaldson

LF Saunders

1B/DH Smoak/Valencia

CF Pompey

2B Goins/Travis

 

I haven't been paying close attention, are you all afraid about Donaldson's back holding up on the turf?

[Stangstag]

I'll try and get this thread back on topic.

 

I am happy for all you Jays' fans. It's been quite an offseason for AA at this point and the team is looking great.

 

SS Reyes

C Martin

RF Bautista

1B/DH Encarnacion

3B Donaldson

LF Saunders

1B/DH Smoak/Valencia

CF Pompey

2B Goins/Travis

 

I haven't been paying close attention, are you all afraid about Donaldson's back holding up on the turf?

 

Swap Martin and Donaldson and most likely that the lineup we'll see. And no, nobody is really worried about Donaldson.

[raBBit]

Swap Martin and Donaldson and most likely that the lineup we'll see. And no, nobody is really worried about Donaldson.

 

I wouldn't discount the distinct possibility that he could have a back issue. It wouldn't be the first time the Jays traded for damaged goods. Sirotka, Reyes and Santos come to mind.

[JaysAllMighty]

This is really amazing, so far potentially 6 new bats in our lineup. New team really.

[BallsDeep]

Damn I'm really gonna miss Melky.

[JuniorFelix]

I'll try and get this thread back on topic.

 

I am happy for all you Jays' fans. It's been quite an offseason for AA at this point and the team is looking great.

 

SS Reyes

C Martin

RF Bautista

1B/DH Encarnacion

3B Donaldson

LF Saunders

1B/DH Smoak/Valencia

CF Pompey

2B Goins/Travis

 

I haven't been paying close attention, are you all afraid about Donaldson's back holding up on the turf?

 

Lordie, that looks pretty lovely to this chap. I'd like to have Martin in a 5 or 6 spot for a bit less wear and tear, but I can't think of a better way to slot it myself.

 

Looking forward to seeing what both of the Safeco refugees can bring. They should both be motivated. Nationalism, one year deals, and the chance to play in this lineup, at RC for half of your games...hopefully a perfect storm for those two.

[BlueRocky]

Yep looks decent.

On nights where the bottom third can give you a couple hits.. The top two thirds will have a field day.

 

My only concern now is all 3 of your power guys bat from the right side.

Not sure how much of a problem it's going to be but when you can have Joey Ed and Donaldson in the same lineup guess you just have to live with it.

[Stangstag]

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Jose Reyes says:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HgSHRAU9gf0/UU3wUSjp1nI/AAAAAAAAFyo/5iaN5s_1xP0/s1600/Reyes-Dancing.gif

 

Love it. The gif that stands out for me is Smoak. Dude has massive power. If he can put it together a bit more, cut down the strikeouts and make better contact, he could be pretty good. Either way, we have alot of 20+ homerun guys, and possibly a few that could hit 30+ and maybe even 40.

[fireballW]

Love it. The gif that stands out for me is Smoak. Dude has massive power. If he can put it together a bit more, cut down the strikeouts and make better contact, he could be pretty good. Either way, we have alot of 20+ homerun guys, and possibly a few that could hit 30+ and maybe even 40.

 

This organisation (AA mostly) did a great job of getting Bautista and EE. 3rd time would be a charm though. If Smoak could take off it would really be huge. Here's hoping.

[Stangstag]

This organisation (AA mostly) did a great job of getting Bautista and EE. 3rd time would be a charm though. If Smoak could take off it would really be huge. Here's hoping.

 

I just want him to strike out a bit less