Jays sign Martin - So what's next priority??

[TwistedLogic]

no way AA goes for it, saunders has good potential but isn't a sure thing either

 

id rather go after aoki or markakis who only cost money, no draft pick/prospect/mlb piece

play better defence and base running then melky for sure, high OBP guys to hit #2 in front of JB/EE

 

Aoki's a decent target. I don't see him as a player on a world series calibre team, but he just went to the WS with the Royals so what do I know. Markakis will cost too much.

[READERsince2006]

Lot's of options with the Russell Martin signing, yeah it was a bit of an overpay and long in length but it was exactly what the doctor ordered for this team. His bat and defensive prowess are going to be immeasurable assets but more importantly it provides flexibility for AA. He could shop Navarro or Happ (maybe both together), he could shop the Dickey/Thole combo, we can resign Melky but less pressure to do so now (Markakis would be a great plan B, I'm less sold on Aoki). Heck because of this Martin signing I would even be content with starting Goins at 2B believe it or not*, the infield D (with the odd Reyes blunder) would be shored up and Martin's framing and arm is going to elevate this rotation, if we can add another front end starter we'll be laughing!

 

*I know Goins AB's would be a problem but I think we can live with it if we resign Melk or get Markakis. I hated the Lind trade and losing some pop but this Martin signing has opened a lot of doors and options, hopefully AA will capitalize..

 

I wish we would have kept lind and platooned him with valencia, goins is a blackhole in the lineup but yes solid defence

 

i hope we can snag drew for cheap, maybe a full spring and season helps him rebound, use him till the all star break and bring up travis, trade him to another team needing a SS or 2B, not sure how his defence at SS rates but I'm sure he would be an adequate addition at 2B for a reasonable price, not sure if mean old scott boras and AA/beast can get along

[READERsince2006]

Aoki's a decent target. I don't see him as a player on a world series calibre team, but he just went to the WS with the Royals so what do I know. Markakis will cost too much.

 

lmao its true nothing about him stands out, his power was zapped last year but we have plenty already, good defence, good speed, great OBP, very few Ks, hits lefties better then righties so no platoon issue, pillar can back up him and pompey

 

aoki probably gets 2/16, markakis get 3/30 and melky 3/45

 

i would do any of the 3, our for sure contending window is next two years, barring injury both players would still be serviceable and tradeable come the 3rd year

[jays76]

I wish we would've kept lind and platooned him with valencia, goins is a blackhole in the lineup but yes solid defence

 

i hope we can snag drew for cheap, maybe a full spring and season helps him rebound, use him till the all star break and bring up travis, trade him to another team needing a SS or 2B, not sure how his defence at SS rates but I'm sure he would be an adequate addition at 2B for a reasonable price, not sure if mean old scott boras and AA/beast can get along

 

I don't know if it was solely attitude issues with Lind why AA would make that trade but Estrada seems like a brutal match for the RC with his style, hopefully AA knew something we didn't.

 

Yeah for the right price Drew would be decent. I'd love Zobrist but I won't hold my breath on that one..

[READERsince2006]

I don't know if it was solely attitude issues with Lind why AA would make that trade but Estrada seems like a brutal match for the RC with his style, hopefully AA knew something we didn't.

 

Yeah for the right price Drew would be decent. I'd love Zobrist but I won't hold my breath on that one..

 

Zobrist would be amazing but yea not sure i would wanna pay the prospect price tag TB would want, if the jays trade Happ then estrada probably takes his spot, martin is good with pitchers but probably not this good lol, maybe the homers are an outlier but id rather try to trade him or DFA him rather then use him as a 5million non closer/swingman when we have jenkins/hendricks

 

linds attitude and lack of versatility got him axed, but I'm intrigued by smoaks away numbers and potential at RC in a deep lineup so we will have to see how this plays out

 

id love the jays to make a run at LaRoche, platoon with valencia a bit, good pop and decent defence at 1B

[LongTimeReader]

Zobrist would be amazing but yea not sure i would wanna pay the prospect price tag TB would want, if the jays trade Happ then estrada probably takes his spot, martin is good with pitchers but probably not this good lol, maybe the homers are an outlier but id rather try to trade him or DFA him rather then use him as a 5million non closer/swingman when we have jenkins/hendricks

 

linds attitude and lack of versatility got him axed, but I'm intrigued by smoaks away numbers and potential at RC in a deep lineup so we will have to see how this plays out

 

id love the jays to make a run at LaRoche, platoon with valencia a bit, good pop and decent defence at 1B

 

So how soon until you're at the "new account" threshold again?

[READERsince2006]

So how soon until you're at the "new account" threshold again?

 

i dont understand the question, u probably think I'm some troll but I'm a legit fan first account here, use to read the old forum for years, trolls got ridiculous there then when i went back the threads were s***, searched google and found this forum with all the same good posters from there(shame ECJF has to give up his like 30k posts) this is my only account and will be so forever, thanks

 

trolls are negative like that guy that hated hechevarria and beckettisdog and his 1000 other profiles, or passive aggressive ****s that need a kick in the teeth

[JTech780]

Unfortunately we can pretty much rule signing Lester or Scherzer, as they are going to get 6+ year contracts. Blue Jays policy is to not sign any contract longer than 5 years.

 

I wonder if a package where Navarro is included to the Dodgers for Alex Guerrero would work.

 

There is a lot of good bullpen arms in free agency this year. If we are going to go with a younger rotation we better have a very strong bullpen.

 

Miller or Robertson would be good anchors but are going to be costly. Instead we could sign a couple of guys like Motte, Hochevar, Grilli, Romo, Lindstrom and one of them could end up being as good as Miller.

[LongTimeReader]

I wonder if a package where Navarro is included to the Dodgers for Alex Guerrero would work.

 

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no

[JTech780]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no

 

Care to elaborate?

[LongTimeReader]

Care to elaborate?

 

I'm just going to assume you're another CHP persona, so no.

[LongTimeReader]

The Dodgers are smart now.

 

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Pakled

[JTech780]

I'm just going to assume you're another CHP persona, so no.

 

What is a CHP?

 

We have a need at 2B hence Guerrero, the Dodgers have Gordon so where does Guerrero fit? They need more offense at the catching position hence Navarro.

[Nox]

No way the Dodgers would trade for a replacement level catcher with Friedman and Zaidi.

 

Yea. I mean, I'm sure Navarro is going to be moveable but I highly doubt those two would be the ones to derp on in.

[JTech780]

No way the Dodgers would trade for a replacement level catcher with Friedman and Zaidi.

 

Fair enough, but I can't see the Dodgers going into the season with the catchers they currently have. Ellis and Butera are very good defensive catchers but there is zero offense there.

[LongTimeReader]

What is a CHP?

 

We have a need at 2B hence Guerrero, the Dodgers have Gordon so where does Guerrero fit? They need more offense at the catching position hence Navarro.

 

The fact that you are trying to refer to CHP as a what instead of a who makes me believe you ARE CHP, nice try though

[JTech780]

The fact that you are trying to refer to CHP as a what instead of a who makes me believe you ARE CHP, nice try though

 

Or it could mean that I just found this forum today and am not familiar with who people are or what acronyms people use on this forum. Either way works for me as you obviously don't have anything important to add to any discussion so I can just go ahead and add you to my ignore list.

[JTech780]

lol you've got an ignore list? First day?

 

lol apparently, I had to scramble after I posted that to make sure that this forum had an ignore list.

 

I just came here to have a discussion about my favorite team, that's all.

 

So if LA isn't going to go for Navarro, who is? I am sure packaging him can, get us infield or outfield help.

[LongTimeReader]

lol apparently, I had to scramble after I posted that to make sure that this forum had an ignore list.

 

I just came here to have a discussion about my favorite team, that's all.

 

So if LA isn't going to go for Navarro, who is? I am sure packaging him can, get us infield or outfield help.

 

I think you've already crossed that "new account" threshold. See you back here as someone else in due time, yes?

[Candy Maldonado]

lol apparently, I had to scramble after I posted that to make sure that this forum had an ignore list.

 

I just came here to have a discussion about my favorite team, that's all.

 

So if LA isn't going to go for Navarro, who is? I am sure packaging him can, get us infield or outfield help.

 

Welcome!!!

[JTech780]

Welcome!!!

 

Thanks.

[LongTimeReader]

AND ... it took you all of a couple minutes to violate the understanding of how to treat other posters, and new posters, that we thought we'd instilled in you, in the New Members thread.

 

Seriously, it's like dealing with my 4 year old.

 

Daddy Moogy: "Didn't I just tell you not to touch that?"

Lil Moogy, Take 2: "Yes."

Daddy Moogy: "So when I told you not to touch that, what did that mean?"

Lil Moogy, Take 2: "Not to touch it."

Daddy Moogy: "So then why did you touch it?"

Lil Moogy, Take 2: "I don't know."

 

Agreed. And do you always play by the "rules"?

[Qwerty]

Jose Bautista

Mark Buehrle

Dionner Navarro

Maicer Izturis

 

For

 

Brandon Moss

Jed Lowrie

Derek Norris

 

Sign: Max Scherzer or Jon Lester. Extend Edwin Encarnacion.

 

Rotation:

 

Scherzer

Dickey

Stroman

Hutchison

Happ/Sanchez

 

Lineup:

 

Reyes

Martin

Encarnacion

Norris

Lowrie/Travis

Moss

Lawrie/Valencia

Pompey

[Mikeleelop]

Jose Bautista

Mark Buehrle

Dionner Navarro

Maicer Izturis

 

For

 

Brandon Moss

Jed Lowrie

Derek Norris

 

Sign: Max Scherzer or Jon Lester. Extend Edwin Encarnacion.

 

Rotation:

 

Scherzer

Dickey

Stroman

Hutchison

Happ/Sanchez

 

Lineup:

 

Reyes

Martin

Encarnacion

Norris

Lowrie/Travis

Moss

Lawrie/Valencia

Pompey

 

wow??

[JTech780]

Jose Bautista

Mark Buehrle

Dionner Navarro

Maicer Izturis

 

For

 

Brandon Moss

Jed Lowrie

Derek Norris

 

Sign: Max Scherzer or Jon Lester. Extend Edwin Encarnacion.

 

Rotation:

 

Scherzer

Dickey

Stroman

Hutchison

Happ/Sanchez

 

Lineup:

 

Reyes

Martin

Encarnacion

Norris

Lowrie/Travis

Moss

Lawrie/Valencia

Pompey

 

Jed Lowrie is a free agent so we can sign him, which wouldn't be a terrible idea if he can play 2nd. Though on MLB Radio they were saying that people inside of the A's front office were saying that Lowrie's defense at 2nd is even worse than is defense at SS.

 

Jon Lester is a long shot to come to Toronto, Max Scherzer is absolutely not coming to Toronto. It will most likely take more than 5 years to sign either pitcher and as per club policy they don't sign players to contracts longer than 5 years. Scherzer is represented by Scott Boras who doesn't have a good working relationship with the Blue Jays. I just don't see it happening. I would be overjoyed to get either.

 

I think someone like Jason Hammel might be more getable.

[Captain Adama]

Jose Bautista

Mark Buehrle

Dionner Navarro

Maicer Izturis

 

For

 

Brandon Moss

Jed Lowrie

Derek Norris

 

Sign: Max Scherzer or Jon Lester. Extend Edwin Encarnacion.

 

Rotation:

 

Scherzer

Dickey

Stroman

Hutchison

Happ/Sanchez

 

Lineup:

 

Reyes

Martin

Encarnacion

Norris

Lowrie/Travis

Moss

Lawrie/Valencia

Pompey

 

Even if Lowrie wasn't an FA, that's still a s*** trade.

[Qwerty]

Even if Lowrie wasn't an FA, that's still a s*** trade.

 

Its not if you free up cash and actually sign scherzer or lester

[43211234]

Its not if you free up cash and actually sign scherzer or lester

 

Jose Bautista is one of the very best players in baseball and is on a great contract.

[Nox]

Its not if you free up cash and actually sign scherzer or lester

 

Fun fact: Jose Bautista is a better player than Scherzer or Lester. He also is on a much better contract (from the team's perspective). To clear his money to sign a worse, more volatile asset is a pretty terrible idea.

[TwistedLogic]

that we thought we'd instilled in you

 

Moogy a member of the hive confirmed.

 

Daddy Moogy:[/Quote]

 

Moogy still creepy confirmed.